06-05-2008, 11:21
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AF Secretary and Chief of Staff Forced to Resign This Morning
Surprised it happened now and not months ago. Given the issues with the Thunderbird contract etc... Although I am sure Minot failing it's NSI last week probably had something to do with this as well. I bet we don't see a new chief until after the election.
NBC: Top two Air Force officials resigning
Secretary, chief of staff ousted; choice reportedly was 'resign or be fired'
NBC News and news services
updated 10:06 a.m. PT, Thurs., June. 5, 2008
The nation's top two Air Force officials are resigning, military sources told NBC News Thursday.
Air Force Chief of Staff Michael Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne are being forced out, the two sources said. Moseley, a general, is the Air Force's top uniformed officer; Wynne is the top civilian official.
Word of the resignations was first reported by InsideDefense.com and the Air Force Times earlier Thursday.
"Top-level Pentagon officials gave Moseley the option to resign or be fired during a meeting this morning," the InsideDefense.com reported, quoting an unidentified military official.
The Air Force Times noted that the resignations follow high-profile scandals and disagreements between with lawmakers and Defense Secretary Robert Gates over the Air Force's role in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Gates earlier this year publicly stated that the Air Force could dedicate more resources, especially unmanned drones, to those battlefronts.
Sources told the Air Force Times that other senior officers could also be relieved.
A public announcement was expected later in the day. There was no immediate word on who would be nominated to replace Moseley and Wynne.
The Air Force has endured a number of embarrassing setbacks over the past year. In August, for instance, a B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and flown across the country. The pilot and crew were unaware they had nuclear arms aboard.
The error was considered so grave that President Bush was quickly informed.
NBC News producer Courtney Kube, Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report
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06-05-2008, 12:05
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SECDEF gave the AF SEC and COS plenty of time to respond to the incidents throughout the year; with no real response. Time to move them out and put in fresh blood. 
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06-05-2008, 14:11
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Moseley was my boss when I was with JTF-SWA...i would have never expected this from him... 
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06-05-2008, 14:43
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I knew that heads would be rolling after the nuke flights, then Minot failing their NSI. I just didn't think it would be this far up the chain of command.
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06-05-2008, 15:00
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Rumor is Norty Schwartz might be in the running for the job.
That would be a breath of fresh air from the fighter club leadership.
TR
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06-05-2008, 20:17
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I think it is nice to see leadership being held accountable for a change. If the leadership is failing, the troops will surely fail as well..............
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06-05-2008, 21:16
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Rumor is Norty Schwartz might be in the running for the job.
That would be a breath of fresh air from the fighter club leadership.
TR
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I was thinking the same thing this morning. I just came from working for Gen Schwartz in his LL office at USTC. He is a great guy. BUT he announced his retirement at his commanders call last month, with the new guy coming in sometime in November. I suppose it is a possibility they could just pull his retirement paperwork.
There for a while we thought he was going to be the new Chairman, but timing was an issue.
Guess we will have to wait and see. From what my husband told me this morning Wynn was shown the door because he was told to fire Mosley and he refused. Within the AF halls it sounds like a few more heads of the General level are going to roll before this is all over.
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06-09-2008, 09:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Rumor is Norty Schwartz might be in the running for the job.
That would be a breath of fresh air from the fighter club leadership.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,364480,00.html
Gates Names Picks for Top 2 Replacements at Air Force
Monday, June 09, 2008
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Monday recommended Gen. Norton Schwartz be next Air Force chief of staff, the top uniformed leader of the service.
"Today I provided my recommendation to the resident for the nominations to the top civilian and military leadership positions in the Air Force," Gates said in a statement.
"I recommend that Michael Donley be nominated to serve as Secretary of the Air Force," Gates said. The name had surfaced as a likelihood last week.
"I further recommend to the President that General Norton Schwartz be nominated to serve as the Air Force Chief of Staff," Gates said.
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01-10-2014, 09:22
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The Air Force has endured a number of embarrassing setbacks over the past year [2007}. In August, for instance, a B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and flown across the country. The pilot and crew were unaware they had nuclear arms aboard.
The error was considered so grave that President Bush was quickly informed.
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And we always thought the former-USSR's nuclear surety program had issues.
Richard
Nuclear Missile Officers Reportedly Implicated In Drug Probe
NPR, 9 Jan 2014
Two U.S. Air Force officers with authority to launch nuclear-tipped Minuteman 3 missiles, have reportedly been implicated in an illegal-narcotics investigation.
The Associated Press, citing an unnamed official, says the officers are based at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana and work for the 341st Missile Wing.
The report comes on the same day that Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is scheduled to visit a similar base in Nebraska that also houses underground missile silos. The AP reports that "the official says the officers' access to classified information has been suspended and the Air Force is investigating."
It's the latest sign of trouble for the country's aging missile forces, which the AP says, "have been suffering under security lapses, discipline problems and low morale."
In August, the same 341st, which controls about a third of the nation's land-based ICBMs, failed inspection after making "tactical-level errors during one of several exercises," the Air Force's Global Strike Command said in a statement.
Four months previous, 17 officers at the 91st Missile Wing, based at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, had their authority to control missiles yanked after an inspection gave crews a grade of "D" on their mastery of Minuteman 3 launch procedures.
And, in October, the Air Force's top missile commander, Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, was relieved of command in what was described at the time as "a loss of trust and confidence ... that stemmed from Carey's "behavior during a temporary duty assignment."
Reuters reports that the general, who led the 20th Air Force headquartered at Warren Air Force Base, Wyo. — the same base that Hagel was due to visit — exhibited "drunken and inappropriate behavior while leading a security delegation to Moscow."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...be?ft=1&f=1003
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