12-20-2007, 14:08
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Now look at what's happening in...
This is completely unrealalistic to me even in England. Could this happen here too?
www.breitbart.tv/?p=13054
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12-20-2007, 19:25
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Just goes to show... They can ban anything. Where there is a criminal will, the criminals will find a way. Bans are dumb...
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12-20-2007, 23:20
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Why don't they just go ahead and ban large kitchen knives while they're at it
Sad thing is, the twits actually tried that. Looks like the future culinary business will need black market connections to obtain their utensils.
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12-21-2007, 19:44
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Bans are a funny thing.
The war on drugs has been going on, to some degree, for 35 years now. From what I read in the newspaper, see on television, and hear in conversation with school teachers drugs are more available and more pervasive than ever. So - 35 years of banning and aggressive enforcement has not worked with illicit drugs. I think that's telling.
I understand the problem with weapons. People suppose that a law will keep them safe. Because they hesitate to jay walk, they imagine that the bad guys will recoil from getting a baseball bat and mugging peaceful citizens. I question their conclusions.
The tendency to ban weapons will continue until a substantial change in underlying beliefs occurs. That may take awhile.
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12-21-2007, 20:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moving Target
Why don't they just go ahead and ban large kitchen knives while they're at it
Sad thing is, the twits actually tried that. Looks like the future culinary business will need black market connections to obtain their utensils.
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The Docs in Great Britian are working with ya, from the BBC itself: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
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12-21-2007, 20:22
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Call me crazy, but I just believe that banning certain Islamic immigrants from troubled areas, vigorous prosecution with harsh sentences for criminals, and incarcerating them for long periods, is a more effective anti-crime policy than disarming lawful citizens and punishing them for trying to defend themselves.
"Kill one, scare one thousand" applies to criminals as well. Not too many want additional flow through ventilation, either.
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12-21-2007, 20:28
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LOL, I'm no expert, but can't a sturdy steak knife pretty much do the same damage, punctured lung, punctured heart?
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12-21-2007, 20:43
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Originally Posted by Scimitar
LOL, I'm no expert, but can't a sturdy steak knife pretty much do the same damage, punctured lung, punctured heart?
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To answer he who's named after a middle eastern curved sword  ,
I've spent some time in the Oregon Police Crime lab (me, not my samples)
and learned a bit more about what punctures things than I'd thought there was to know.
Yes, steak knives work as do screwdrivers, ice picks, welding rods, straightened mattress springs, plexi glass shards, etc.
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