09-09-2007, 09:37
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Sept 11; Is 72 months Significant
I've been reading a lot of different open source intel estimates regarding the upcoming anniversary of September 11. This one struck me as somewhat interesting based on the fact that terrorist do like to mark certain anniversaries or historical events with attacks.
It will been 72 months since the September 11 attack.
The Prophet Muhammad predicted that after his death, Islam would divide into 72 factions.
According to the Koran, Allah has 72 angels guarding his throne.
The warriors of Islam are rewarded with 72 “perpetual virgins” in paradise.
The number of warriors on the Muslim side at the Battle of Badr.
The number of people martyred along with Imam Hussain at the Battle of Karbala.
The number of soldiers who will fight alongside Imam Mahdi against the Dajjal, according to Islamic ahadith.
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09-09-2007, 10:02
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It probably is, however I think by now that they have also realized the significance of 6 A-teams of 72 SF troopers.
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09-09-2007, 10:26
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72 Months?
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....It will been 72 months since the September 11 attack.......
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Is that in Muslim months or Bar-B-Q eating, beer drinking infidel western months?
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09-09-2007, 10:56
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Swine months....
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09-09-2007, 21:40
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How about bear months?
The following needs about a pound of salt to go with it, and I can't say I have any particular confidence in the source. Still, with those caveats in mind:
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$4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks
ANYBODY HAVE A CLUE, AS TO WHAT, THESE "INVESTORS" ARE EXPECTING?
The two sales are being referred to by market traders as "bin Laden trades" because only an event on the scale of 9-11 could make these short-sell options valuable.
There are 65,000 contracts @ $750.00 for the SPX 700 calls for open interest. That controls 6.5 million shares at $750 = $4.5 Billion. Not a single trade. But quite a bit of $$ on a contract that is 700 points away from current value. No one would buy that deep "in the money" calls. No reason to. So if they were sold looks like someone betting on massive dislocation. Lots of very strange option activity that I haven't seen before.
The entity or individual offering these sales can only make money if the market drops 30%-50% within the next four weeks. If the market does not drop, the entity or individual involved stands to lose over $1 billion just for engaging in these contracts! Clearly, someone knows something big is going to happen BEFORE the options expire on Sept. 21.
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09-09-2007, 21:48
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How about bear months?
The following needs about a pound of salt to go with it, and I can't say I have any particular confidence in the source. Still, with those caveats in mind:
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$4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks
ANYBODY HAVE A CLUE, AS TO WHAT, THESE "INVESTORS" ARE EXPECTING?
The two sales are being referred to by market traders as "bin Laden trades" because only an event on the scale of 9-11 could make these short-sell options valuable.
There are 65,000 contracts @ $750.00 for the SPX 700 calls for open interest. That controls 6.5 million shares at $750 = $4.5 Billion. Not a single trade. But quite a bit of $$ on a contract that is 700 points away from current value. No one would buy that deep "in the money" calls. No reason to. So if they were sold looks like someone betting on massive dislocation. Lots of very strange option activity that I haven't seen before.
The entity or individual offering these sales can only make money if the market drops 30%-50% within the next four weeks. If the market does not drop, the entity or individual involved stands to lose over $1 billion just for engaging in these contracts! Clearly, someone knows something big is going to happen BEFORE the options expire on Sept. 21.
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I heard about that.
I think it is the son of the Nigerian oil minister.
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09-09-2007, 22:08
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I heard about that.
I think it is the son of the Nigerian oil minister.
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He's a busy fellow, so it's always a possibility.
I suspect, however, that a hedge fund is doing some sort of highly leveraged trade - perhaps one combining futures and options. The "quants" analyze market inefficiencies, then seek to exploit those inefficiencies. Leverage is essential to make the very small percentage gain worthwhile as an investment.
Alas, that's not nearly as much fun as a deep, dark (and quite improbable) conspiracy.
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09-10-2007, 09:17
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How would a "Shock & Awe 2.0" on iran affect the markets?
This trading may be "mislabeled" for a reason. Personally I'd be purchasing shares in the companies that produce JDAMS and other guided missiles, we might be in short supply soon.
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How would a "Shock & Awe 2.0" on iran affect the markets?
This trading may be "mislabeled" for a reason. Personally I'd be purchasing shares in the companies that produce JDAMS and other guided missiles, we might be in short supply soon. 
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Gold would go up...crude oil likewise. The averages might go down for a time - but if it were a successful effort, I would expect a move up beyond the dreams of avarice.
Thank you, Sir!
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How would a "Shock & Awe 2.0" on iran affect the markets?
This trading may be "mislabeled" for a reason. Personally I'd be purchasing shares in the companies that produce JDAMS and other guided missiles, we might be in short supply soon. 
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Once the public had heard of news that SOF forces had touched their feet in the sand of the Panjshir Valley, Afghan shares of Halliburton were being traded in large blocks by both long funds and hedge funds.
I was New York City until the following Monday after 9/11. I awoke my assistant at her home early in the morning by cell phone to instuct her to place short sells on all long held airlines positions held in my clients book. Some decided to sell their long positions outright, and others shorted against the box.
Any publicly held shares of stock even remotely related to defense stocks were being purchased en masse in the weeks following the attacks.
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