Adventurer looks for climate change

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Adventurer looks for climate change

Local adventure traveller Chris Cooper saw plenty of snow and ice on a recent excursion to Baffin Island, as you would expect.

Cooper, who has made numerous trips to Canada's arctic, was curious whether the massive frozen island had experienced signs of global warming, a much talked about topic of conversation during the past couple of years.

He talked to Inuit people who lived there, and they told him a different story than the one often heard in the media, that the ice is melting in the Earth's northern regions.

"The people living up there visually can't see anything up there at all," said Cooper, sitting in his Pitt Meadows home after completing his seventh arctic journey.

He couldn't see any signs of global warming during the group's 200-kilometre journey - Cooper said the glaciers were huge and frozen.

"You would never know there's global warming up there," said Cooper.

Global warming is certainly occurring, Cooper believes, but the degree to which it is happening has been blown out of proportion.

"It's way over the top," he said.

Global warming wasn't really a concern until about two years ago, said Cooper.

"But now we hear about it all the time on the news," he said.

Cooper travelled to Baffin Island, the world's fifth largest island, as part of a group of eight people. They skied, hauled a heavy load, and camped out during most of their time there.

"I just feel a fascination to do these sorts of things," said Cooper, who took some some spectacular photos of the frozen northern land during the adventure.

He finds the people as fascinating as the place's geography. The people of Baffin Island were outgoing, accommodating and kind, said Cooper, and they were equally curious about the lives of their southern visitors.

Cooper wouldn't have been able to afford to go if he hadn't had 25,000 Aeroplan points to redeem. The airfare would have cost him about $4,000.

On previous trips to the North, Cooper has had corporate sponsors. He also took travellers on a couple of commercial trips in the 1990s.

Cooper's adventurous spirit will next take him to Great Britain, where he is scheduled to embark next year on a canoe trip around part of Great Britain's coast for six months with Canadian and British paddlers.

He is to complete the second half of that adventure in 2009.

published on 07/06/2007

http://www.mrtimes.com/issues07/0712...071207co4.html

[hoot72]

Originally Posted by Choose

Adventurer looks for climate change

Local adventure traveller Chris Cooper saw plenty of snow and ice on a recent excursion to Baffin Island, as you would expect.

Cooper, who has made numerous trips to Canada's arctic, was curious whether the massive frozen island had experienced signs of global warming, a much talked about topic of conversation during the past couple of years.

He talked to Inuit people who lived there, and they told him a different story than the one often heard in the media, that the ice is melting in the Earth's northern regions.

"The people living up there visually can't see anything up there at all," said Cooper, sitting in his Pitt Meadows home after completing his seventh arctic journey.

He couldn't see any signs of global warming during the group's 200-kilometre journey - Cooper said the glaciers were huge and frozen.

"You would never know there's global warming up there," said Cooper.

Global warming is certainly occurring, Cooper believes, but the degree to which it is happening has been blown out of proportion.

"It's way over the top," he said.

Global warming wasn't really a concern until about two years ago, said Cooper.

"But now we hear about it all the time on the news," he said.

Cooper travelled to Baffin Island, the world's fifth largest island, as part of a group of eight people. They skied, hauled a heavy load, and camped out during most of their time there.

"I just feel a fascination to do these sorts of things," said Cooper, who took some some spectacular photos of the frozen northern land during the adventure.

He finds the people as fascinating as the place's geography. The people of Baffin Island were outgoing, accommodating and kind, said Cooper, and they were equally curious about the lives of their southern visitors.

Cooper wouldn't have been able to afford to go if he hadn't had 25,000 Aeroplan points to redeem. The airfare would have cost him about $4,000.

On previous trips to the North, Cooper has had corporate sponsors. He also took travellers on a couple of commercial trips in the 1990s.

Cooper's adventurous spirit will next take him to Great Britain, where he is scheduled to embark next year on a canoe trip around part of Great Britain's coast for six months with Canadian and British paddlers.

He is to complete the second half of that adventure in 2009.

published on 07/06/2007

http://www.mrtimes.com/issues07/0712...071207co4.html

Well, mr Cooper is in the minority who think there ISNT global warming.

I live in Borneo and its bloody obvious that things are not normal with the weather patterns, the rainy seasons and dry spells as well as the slight increase in temperatures....

It wasnt like this 10 years ago...

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by hoot72

Well, mr Cooper is in the minority who think there ISNT global warming.

I live in Borneo and its bloody obvious that things are not normal with the weather patterns, the rainy seasons and dry spells as well as the slight increase in temperatures....

It wasnt like this 10 years ago...

I disagree.

The weather is always changing, it is changing at a much slower rate than the Chicken Littles would have you believe (a couple of degrees per century), and the cause of it is far from verified as primarily manmade.

His point was about Baffin Island, and the claims that the glaciers and ice caps are melting. Have you spent a lot of time there?

I only have 50 years of weather observations on multiple continents, but I think it is merely the normal cycle.

If you think global warming sucks, wait till you see global cooling (again).

TR

[hoot72]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I disagree.

The weather is always changing, it is changing at a much slower rate than the Chicken Littles would have you believe (a couple of degrees per century), and the cause of it is far from verified as primarily manmade.

His point was about Baffin Island, and the claims that the glaciers and ice caps are melting. Have you spent a lot of time there?
I only have 50 years of weather observations on multiple continents, but I think it is merely the normal cycle.

If you think global warming sucks, wait till you see global cooling (again).

TR

Fair statement; I think you probably do have a point about the weather patterns changing; they dont remain consistent throughout a 100 year period but rather MAYBE work in some sort of a cycle..

[Razor]

Originally Posted by hoot72

It wasnt like this 10 years ago...

Do you recall what the weather there was like 100 years ago? 1000 years ago? 10,000 years ago? How about 1,000,000 years ago? There's a reason long-term studies with more data points are generally regarded as being more reliable in science circles.

[SFS0AVN]

Everyone has an opinion about global warming. It's like politics, a way to have a good argument.
However, I don't think it would hurt to get a bunch of the pollution out of the air.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by SFS0AVN

Everyone has an opinion about global warming. It's like politics, a way to have a good argument.
However, I don't think it would hurt to get a bunch of the pollution out of the air.

IIRC, the air in the US is cleaner now than it was in the 60s.

Developing countries like China, India, Korea, and even Mexico are another matter.

Unfortunately, the most stringent restrictions are on those who have spent the most to control pollution.

Consequently, there will be little, if any impact on the largest polluters, and a tremedous hit to the industry and economy of those trying the hardest to be clean and green. I think China and India's economies would collapse if the EPA enforced the same laws there as we have here. Maybe we should advocate for our EPA to take over the UN with our environmental laws and enforce them everywhere equally.

TR

[SFS0AVN]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Maybe we should advocate for our EPA to take over the UN with our environmental laws and enforce them everywhere equally. TR

There would be a whole bunch of people pounding on the desks with their shoes.

[hoot72]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

IIRC, the air in the US is cleaner now than it was in the 60s.

Developing countries like China, India, Korea, and even Mexico are another matter.
Unfortunately, the most stringent restrictions are on those who have spent the most to control pollution.

Consequently, there will be little, if any impact on the largest polluters, and a tremedous hit to the industry and economy of those trying the hardest to be clean and green. I think China and India's economies would collapse if the EPA enforced the same laws there as we have here. Maybe we should advocate for our EPA to take over the UN with our environmental laws and enforce them everywhere equally.

TR

Agreed..unless they make an effort..there is little point banging the table....having said that, I would, ONE DAY, like to see us moving away from petrol and diesel to more environmentally friendly options..hopefully we wont need to run out of gas first before they do decide to take the big plunge!

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Consequently, there will be little, if any impact on the largest polluters, and a tremedous hit to the industry and economy of those trying the hardest to be clean and green.

In my previous work as an environmental/chemical engineer, I was pitted between residents who want better living condition and factories who want less stringent environmental regulations. Added to the mix are reps who deal with lobbyist and voters. There were hardly ever easy solutions that made everyone happy. Unfortunately, the companies often decided they had enough and would rather move the plants to Brazil, Mexico, or China where they don't have to worry about throwing a "little" dust, chlorine, or investing in $20k RTO (regenerative thermal oxidizer). Then the residents have bigger problem: unemployment.

We do now have much better water/air quality now than just 20 years ago. Just go to any state DNR EPD and/or EPA sites and see the documented emission trend. I'm really curious to know the total pollutant signature of the US with all the SUVs vs. China or Mexico with all the factories that don't use any pollutant controls.

The arguments for global warming is very convincing for the uninitiated general mass. Even discovery & explorer have run shows that note changes with bird migration, glaciers etc. etc. Once an argument appeals to Joe's emotion (ie. very prevalent in M. Moore movies), he's reluctant to use the muscle between his ears.

One example with the uninitiated general mass is the argument for nuclear power. Talk to any chemical engineer lecturer or PE, and they'd tell you nuclear power is the way to go. However, the general mass is super-scared of the idea. What about Chernobyl?! Look at those nuclear power plants. The huge reactor chimneys are letting out thick, white smoke. Evil pollution!!! Well, the thick white smoke is water vapor and those giant structures are not the reactor, but the heat exchanger/cooling system.

I believe it comes down to perspective and choice. Most would rather see and hear what they want to see and hear.

[82ndtrooper]

Originally Posted by Razor

Do you recall what the weather there was like 100 years ago? 1000 years ago? 10,000 years ago? How about 1,000,000 years ago? There's a reason long-term studies with more data points are generally regarded as being more reliable in science circles.

A million years ago ? Was that the Carboniferous period ? It was something like 90% pure oxygen and erachnids were the size of a small calf

Lightning often started explosions resulting in hundreds of acres of swampland turning into dust.

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