04-20-2004, 15:33
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18C's and Wannabes, Name This Item
What is this item, specifically, and why is it a very nasty little bugger?
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04-20-2004, 15:50
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Just a wannabe here, but it looks like an unexploded mortar round or an RPG projo. Upon closer inspection, looks quite a lot like an RPG projo. I suspect that it has been photoshopped to eliminate markings and make this interesting.
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04-20-2004, 16:10
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Doubt its a RPG, lacks the "stick" out of the back end. Doubt that its a mortar as it lacks the fins. I am guessing an Artillery shell. What is interesting, and probably why it makes it a nasty lil' SOB is the flat nose. Most artillery shell heads I have seen have the pointed fuse for a nose. So, if there is no fuse, what is it's purpose? Is this a chemical warhead?
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04-20-2004, 16:42
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Could it be an RPG, already fired, and therefore very sensetive right now? The propellent has already burned and that's why we can't see a "stick" at the rear? The propellent and warhead can be separated.
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04-20-2004, 16:57
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If the warhead can be detatched from the rear stick, it could be an RPG-7, although it doesn't have those indentations running down its nose.
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04-20-2004, 17:22
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It is NOT an RPG.
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04-20-2004, 18:07
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Looks a lot like a rifle grenade but am leaning towards a 60mm mortar shell. Too small for an 81 IIRC. I'm ignoring the fact that the fins are missing because it is conceivable that they broke off on impact.
Need to blow up the image.
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04-20-2004, 18:12
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The 60mm mortar shells don't have such a long middle, according to the pictures on FAS.
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04-20-2004, 18:15
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Solid, your right.
I'll go with a M31 rifle grenade. When I'm wrong, nobody dies.
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04-20-2004, 18:22
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With its fins knocked off, I'd agree.
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04-20-2004, 18:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by Solid
With its fins knocked off, I'd agree.
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Or removed?
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04-20-2004, 18:52
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That is not the M31 Rifle Grenade as the back element, the silver portion, is the incorrect proportions. I ammend my initial thought regarding chemical, as it lacks the lifting plugs that are prevelant upon such warheads. The clue is in the initial question by TR
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why is it a very nasty little bugger?
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Now to determine what he means by it. Sub-munitions?
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04-20-2004, 19:26
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Quote:
Originally posted by Para
That is not the M31 Rifle Grenade as the back element, the silver portion, is the incorrect proportions. I ammend my initial thought regarding chemical, as it lacks the lifting plugs that are prevelant upon such warheads. The clue is in the initial question by TR Now to determine what he means by it. Sub-munitions?
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I'm seeing the silver part as the firing pin section. It's color says HE.
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04-20-2004, 19:49
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Looks like a LAW Warhead.
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04-20-2004, 20:06
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First guess (I may have several):
Willy-Peter round from 60MM mortar
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