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Root Cause Discussion
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04-20-2004, 18:54
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yup. poverty is THE MAIN ISSUE. There are absolutely no poor people living peacefully anywhere in the world. Appalachia is recruiting for an insurgency.
I hate analysts.
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04-20-2004, 19:23
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Well, I read it multiple times thinking I must
be missing something. Not much I agree with.
He doesn't prove his theory to me. Is this information
supposed to convince me that poverty is "the MAIN factor"?
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04-20-2004, 19:28
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He's a lib.
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04-20-2004, 19:28
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Like CRad
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04-20-2004, 19:37
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poverty could be an issue.
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04-20-2004, 20:07
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Certainly that article has some "different" ideas of what are root causes. It is too difficult to argue about that when we have not even agreed on the definition of "root".
I don't think that people need to be rich to live in peace. The issue in the article is globalization. If the hillbillies of appalachia (such as myself) were to suddenly be forced to exist in a globalized economy, it would be interesting to see how long the peace would last.
I realize that most people don't accept that some people hate them for no valid reason. But I also don't think that Hisham Whateverist, the Palestinian, fails to be effected by inequity in the world.
I suppose that most here do not believe in the efficacy of perceptions. But isn't it true that we are seen as a sophisticated military empire by those who would do harm? Envy is a kind of poverty.
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04-20-2004, 20:11
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Wow. We've hit my two least favorite 'root causes' in one thread on one page.
I envy Tiger Woods and that dude what sleeps with Sara Evans, but I am not waging jihad against them...yet.
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04-20-2004, 20:55
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What's your favorite root cause?
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04-20-2004, 20:58
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Originally posted by Jimbo
Wow. We've hit my two least favorite 'root causes' in one thread on one page.
I envy Tiger Woods and that dude what sleeps with Sara Evans, but I am not waging jihad against them...yet.
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Jimbo, at this point I am of course interested in what your favorite 'root causes' might be.
Can we take terrorists out of it, since that is just no good. Insurgents are often motivated by political-economic factors. Why would you envy that dude who sleeps with Sara Evans when you do not even know her? It aint as simple as saying the global market has room for all of it. Sara and Tiger are personas.. it gets alot more difficult when it comes to energy or natural resources.
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04-20-2004, 20:59
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Racism.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
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04-20-2004, 21:00
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Racism.
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Mine too. Damn libs hate Condi Rice just because she's black! LOL
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04-20-2004, 21:14
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Racism? I'll need more please.
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04-20-2004, 21:55
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Racism? I'll need more please.
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"Racism is prejudice or discrimination based on the belief that race is the primary factor determining human traits and abilities. Racism includes the belief that genetic or inherited differences produce the inherent superiority or inferiority of one race over another. In the name of protecting their race from "contamination," some racists justify the domination and destruction of races they consider to be either superior or inferior. Institutional racism is racial prejudice supported by institutional power and authority used to the advantage of one race over others."
Common practice and usage:
Any behavior by another race, ethnicity, religion, or identifiable feature which bothers me or my group is based on racism. Just ask any liberal.
Middle East Wars Against Israel? Racist (Religion).
Bosnia? Racism (Ethnic).
Kosovo? Racism (Religion).
Rwanda? Racism (Tribalist).
Somalia? Racism (Tribalist).
Afganistan? Racism (Religion/Tribal/Ethnic).
Iraq? Racism (Religion/Tribal/Ethnic).
See a pattern?
I/my group is not in charge. Must be a root cause for my loss of dominance, other than numbers, lack of wealth, power, etc. Blame the dominant group and accuse them of racism. Class warfare, haves against the have nots. Seek friendly external group with grudge against dominant local group and gather support from them. Goal? To get our own noses into the trough, and persecute different groups who would/have challenged us.
Use external threats from racism to drive racial/tribal/ethnic nationalist fervor and focus attention OUTSIDE of our internal problems.
Just a thought.
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04-20-2004, 21:59
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Ok. Thank you.
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