02-12-2007, 12:02
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Paul Howe/CSAT Tactical Rifle Class
Thanks to JATX for the heads up on the Paul Howe Rifle class last weekend. Nice range facility, Paul is a great instructor. Had a great time and learned quite a bit about the basics of running a rifle from 7 to 300 yds.
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02-12-2007, 12:15
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I'm glad you could make it, I learned a lot, too. I'm going to check with Paul before posting my AAR to make sure that I don't reveal anything too proprietary.
In general, though, Paul is a great instructor and I have to agree with Blake about the facilities. His emphasis is on "surgical shooting" over speed, although my speed improved a lot over the course of the weekend. It felt great watching my one shot times from 7 yds. drop from about 1.5 seconds to .84 seconds. 
Next up: CSAT's Tactical Pistol course in two weeks. 
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02-12-2007, 12:47
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Originally Posted by jatx
His emphasis is on "surgical shooting" over speed,
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I wonder where that came from........
Any point shooting techniques in his classes? 
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02-12-2007, 13:56
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I wonder where that came from........
Any point shooting techniques in his classes?
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No point shooting, TS. We were taught that each shot requires two full sight pictures. 
BTW, thanks for the recommendation awhile back.
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02-12-2007, 16:58
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I've been to two of Paul's courses. Paul is the quintessential instructor. He's also one of the nicest guys you'll have the chance to meet.
Another thanks out to Team Sergeant for having recommended him.
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02-12-2007, 17:52
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Another thanks out to Team Sergeant for having recommended him.
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I just thought about who I'd listen to as a weapons instructor and for teaching military, LEO's and civies you're not going to find anyone (that is teaching weapons & tactics) as good as Paul. I've never met him but I know his background and what's he's been taught.
99.999% of the people will never to get a chance to get that level of weapons instruction.
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02-12-2007, 12:47
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Paul is a Great American.
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02-12-2007, 12:50
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Paul is a Great American.
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He's also probably the best weapons instructor in the country at the moment. 
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02-12-2007, 19:19
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He's also probably the best weapons instructor in the country at the moment. |
Hey!...Never mind, kg and I are still OCONUS.
I'd like to read the AAR if he's cool with it. I've never met him either, but after reading his book, I know he's got his head right. And that's 90% of the battle.
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02-12-2007, 19:47
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As to the 'surgical shooting': slower is faster, efficiency breeds speed....speed alone breeds mistakes.....sounds like something the TS whispered in my ear on the range way back in S.C.
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02-13-2007, 01:15
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I'd like to read the AAR if he's cool with it. I've never met him either, but after reading his book, I know he's got his head right. And that's 90% of the battle.
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Ditto.
Also, what kind of optics where most running in the class?
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02-12-2007, 13:00
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Paul is a Great American.
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BTW Sir,
He sends his regards.
Good times,
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02-13-2007, 17:58
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Thanks for the great reviews guys. A few days ago I signed up for his Tactical 1 rifle class he is putting on in October in Illinois. His web site and book are worth checking out too.
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02-13-2007, 18:38
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Thanks for the great reviews guys. A few days ago I signed up for his Tactical 1 rifle class he is putting on in October in Illinois. His web site and book are worth checking out too.
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You got me all excited...LEO only. 
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02-13-2007, 19:28
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You got me all excited...LEO only. |
Normal people find it difficult to own the required weapons in Illinois.  Sort of like the other "people's republics". My father lives in the lower half of the state - God alone knows why  . He certainly spends enough time cursing Chicago politicians. Peregrino
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