01-19-2007, 18:46
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I purchased an Kimber Desert Warrior last year. Problem is that it fails to feed, usually when the magazine is near empty (last, two or three rounds) and fails to lock to the rear on a empty magazine. It was my carry gun but I have lost confidence in it for good reason, I am back to carrying my SIG P220. Nothing worse then hearing a click when you know you should hear a bang. I can send it back to the factory but I thought I would post on here first. Kimber wants me to pay for shipping and handling on a pistol that fails to function and cost a thousand bucks. Has anyone else had problems like this. Also on the SIG P220 I had problems with it not locking to the rear on a empty mag but the problem went away after the break in period, Below are some facts.
1. Over two thousand rounds thru it.
2. Happens on all magazines, even different brands.
3. Its not my hands, Shot it one handed from bench rest and still had problems
4. Used different types of ammo.
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01-19-2007, 19:59
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I cant speak for the "Warrior" pistol, but I do own the Kimber Tactical Pro II. The Warrior is somewhat of an original 1911A1 with some minor modifications. Those being the built in tactical rail, waffeled grips, ambi extended safety and the lanyard loop at the base of the mainspring housing. It's a stainless frame as opposed to the aluminum in the other models with Novak Combat sights.
Kimber Tactical Pro II is the 4"barrel with Meprolights and an aluminum frame with an external extractor. It is possibly one of the prettiest handguns available for $1,100, but it has been as unreliable as it is good to look at. Mine started with failure to feeds, at least one in every mag, and did not lock back the slide on the last round fired of the mag. This continued for almost 800 rounds of FMJ in various ammo manufacturers. I cant even think of firing JHP's out of it, they will not feed properly 50% of the time.
Kimber also had me pay for shipping back to it's custom shop. They polished the feed ramp, replaced the extractor and milled the chamber. It still fails to produce anything close to reliable 100% of the time.
Stick with the SIG, it's a better firearm for less money. In fact the SIG P220 is a no-nonsense pistol with the utility user in mind. Nothing fancy, just plain out great reliability with a steel frame and slide. It alway's feels better to have cold steel in your hands.
Just my .02
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01-19-2007, 20:28
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Damn, I have an original Kimber from back when they only made one model, and it has never had any problems in well over 2,000 rounds.
I would definitely send it back, and include in the note a mention of the fact that you are an SF guy and do a lot of training, but have had to retire the pistol for reliability problems.
If it won't do at least 1,000 rounds MTBFs when you get it back, sell it and get something else.
TR
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01-19-2007, 21:43
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[QUOTE=The Reaper]Damn, I have an original Kimber from back when they only made one model, and it has never had any problems in well over 2,000 rounds.
Which model do you own ? I want one.
MRBS's in my Kimber are a dismal 16-20 rounds. Far from being a reliable carried concealed blaster should I ever need it to perform. However, many Kimber owners swear their lives on them.
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01-19-2007, 22:39
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Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper
Which model do you own ? I want one.
MRBS's in my Kimber are a dismal 16-20 rounds. Far from being a reliable carried concealed blaster should I ever need it to perform. However, many Kimber owners swear their lives on them.
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The original model, was that not clear?
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01-19-2007, 23:14
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Well this is disheartening
My wife is planning on buying me a Kimber Desert Warrior for our anniversary this year (seeing as how I am in the desert). If there are both reliability AND customer service issues (which is the first I have heard for of either for Kimber). It may be worthwhile to look into something else. 
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01-20-2007, 09:00
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
I purchased an Kimber Desert Warrior last year. Problem is that it fails to feed, usually when the magazine is near empty (last, two or three rounds) and fails to lock to the rear on a empty magazine. It was my carry gun but I have lost confidence in it for good reason, I am back to carrying my SIG P220. Nothing worse then hearing a click when you know you should hear a bang. I can send it back to the factory but I thought I would post on here first. Kimber wants me to pay for shipping and handling on a pistol that fails to function and cost a thousand bucks. Has anyone else had problems like this. Also on the SIG P220 I had problems with it not locking to the rear on a empty mag but the problem went away after the break in period, Below are some facts.
1. Over two thousand rounds thru it.
2. Happens on all magazines, even different brands.
3. Its not my hands, Shot it one handed from bench rest and still had problems
4. Used different types of ammo.
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06-04-2008, 05:10
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Great! Now I'm worried. I'm just shy of 1.000 rounds through my Kimber TLE/RL II and it's developed problems. Failure to extract at least one round per magazine. I've quit carrying it and it's gone from the night stand to the safe. The hole for the firing pin is also enlarging. Almost egg or tear drop shaped. Greg and John at Shooters said it definately needs to go back to Kimber for a replacement. It has to be some kind of metal lury (sp??) problem. I called and got the same run around it sounds like you guys got on the shipping and so forth. WTF. I'll get around to shipping after this class ends. Take care all.
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06-04-2008, 07:09
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Great! Now I'm worried. I'm just shy of 1.000 rounds through my Kimber TLE/RL II and it's developed problems. Failure to extract at least one round per magazine. I've quit carrying it and it's gone from the night stand to the safe. The hole for the firing pin is also enlarging. Almost egg or tear drop shaped. Greg and John at Shooters said it definately needs to go back to Kimber for a replacement. It has to be some kind of metal lury (sp??) problem. I called and got the same run around it sounds like you guys got on the shipping and so forth. WTF. I'll get around to shipping after this class ends. Take care all.
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Have you tensioned or replaced the extractor?
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06-04-2008, 17:14
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TR, I ordered a new extractor and it took a month to get. The guys at shooters were all in agreement on sending it back to Kimber for the enlarged hole around the firing pin. Kimber is going to replace the entire slide with an internal extractor. Hopefully they can do it faster than it took for the new extractor.
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06-04-2008, 17:54
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I had one that did the same .... took it straight to a friend who is a gunsmith he did some work on the magazine release and it's been in perfect working order since.
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