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Old 12-26-2006, 08:12   #1
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I have a two part question. What would you folks recommend in the way of a Bug Out Bag. Two scenerios. The first is you are in a foreign country on business and have to hit the road quickly. The second scenerio is domestic travel far from home. What would you folks carry and why? Would you use a small back pack, large Dopp Kit or brief case?Because of the security issues weapons would be severly limited. The point is to get back home alive? I normally travel by myself or, with one other person from the office. I am also interested because when the family goes on vacation I want to get them to safety as well. Any suggestions, tips or reccommendations would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:20   #2
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Mission?
Target country?
Status?
Threats?
Obstacles?
Support mechanisms?
Experience?
Training?
Special Considerations?

Moved in here. This is not an SF Fieldcraft question - NDD
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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Old 12-26-2006, 08:56   #3
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Mission?
Target country?
Status?
Threats?
Obstacles?
Support mechanisms?
Experience?
Training?
Special Considerations?

Moved in here. This is not an SF Fieldcraft question - NDD
1. Size? Will it make it through Customs (Status, see above). Wallet size, shaving bag or briefcase.

2. Duration? (Support mechanisms, Experience, Training, see above). 24, 36 or 48 hours or to the next country?

Pete

There were some long threads in here that covered a lot of the basics.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:12   #4
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Sorry about the placement of the thread. Took a guess which was the proper forum and guessed wrong, Mea Culpa!
Mission- To get to US govt controlled area, friendly embassy, military etc
Threats- Overseas, those generally faced by USG employee in an area where either general order has broken down or become downright unfriendly to the US an its citizens. Transportation, border crossing, unfriendly local govt/police etc.
Obstacles- Alone, unfamilar terrain (probably urban) obvious foreigner
language(s), age, not running marathons, still running & lifting, residuals of a mispent youth
Support Mech. Myself and the USG if I have a means of communication
Experience- 7 years living and working in SE Asia, Central & South America, No. Africa Europe and Japan. Can get by in LatAm Spanish, German, some Arabic & little French. Combat Infantry, 2 years + undercover cop in large US city,


Training- Jungle, mountain, desert & urban survival, Airborne, Infantry, Amphibious, some medical, civilian SCUBA, hunting, fishing, Above average land nav, physical combatives & weapons training/use.
Special Considerations- very motivated!

Thank you very much for your help!
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:16   #5
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Pete , I searched under Bug Out bags and, apparently I picked the wrong topic I did not find much.Hopefully I would not be out of pocket any longer than 72 hrs. Other considerations, what one could bring in using offcial US passport.

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Old 12-26-2006, 09:37   #6
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..I searched under Bug Out bags and, apparently I picked the wrong topic ....
Bug Out, Bail Out, E&E, Survival, etc.

You are talking about a few basic items to help you get by.

It all depends on where you are, what you are doing and how well trained you are?

An international phone card works wonders in a big city but is of little use in a place with no phones. A fishing net in Chad? Long walk to the river.

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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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