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Old 12-06-2006, 09:23   #1
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Ahmadinejad

News agencies are reporting Ahmadinejad as saying he has warned western leaders to follow the path of God or vanish from the face of the earth!


I feel a sortie of B-2's coming!


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Old 12-06-2006, 22:28   #2
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The Iranian Parliament just voted to cut his term by 18 months this Sunday. Maybe both of us are pulling in our radicals?
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Old 12-06-2006, 23:22   #3
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The Iranian Parliament just voted to cut his term by 18 months this Sunday. Maybe both of us are pulling in our radicals?
Just curious, who might our radicals, in your estimation, be?
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:56   #4
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Just curious, who might our radicals, in your estimation, be?
John Bolton, I think Donald Rumsfeld was a radical departure from the traditional SECDEF cut. Neoconservativism is a radical departure from the traditional Paleoconservative establishment. Religion and morality in foreign policy is a radical departure in a field that is traditionally amoral.

I think bringing in Robert Gates, Baker's ISG, Bolton leaving, and the recent election all warrants the observation that radicals are being brought in here.

This is all for better or worse. I certainly at one point supported these people and tenets. I do not think it is offensive to note that it is radical, rather it is a just observation.

I think there are signs that Ahmadinejad is getting restrained at home too.
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:20   #5
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Just how was Bolton a radical?

Or for that matter, Rumsfeld?

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Old 12-07-2006, 10:06   #6
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Just how was Bolton a radical?

Or for that matter, Rumsfeld?

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Frankly I kind of like John Bolton and probably agree with him on alot of things. But I would consider this a radical departure from the norm (probably a good thing). Showing such public contempt for the UN (while you or I may agree), is indeed radical and a far throw from the likes of Adlai Stevenson. The Proliferation Security Initiative, his work, I consider to be a good program, has been productive exactly because he radically sidestepped tradition (the UN being venue for such a program) and created a voluntary results driven program.

TR, is it not safe to say that Secretary Rumsfelds policies were a radical departure from the Weinberger-Powell Doctrines? Secretary Rumsfeld came into office intent on reasserting civilian control of the military and I would say has been very successful. Would you not?

Again this is all for better or worse. I worked on the '04 campaign, at one point I can say these were my guys. Semantics maybe at issue here, but am I out of line ?

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Old 12-08-2006, 14:33   #7
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Just how was Bolton a radical?

Or for that matter, Rumsfeld?

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They wanted to get the job done, regardless of public perception or political pressure.

True radicalism given the post-Clintonesque "stick your finger in the air before making a decision" political attitude in DC...

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Old 12-07-2006, 07:15   #8
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I feel a sortie of B-2's coming!


Do we still have the balls to do what needs to be done?? Seems as if we are about to enter into negotiations with Iran and Syria to help mold the Middle East for the next 30-50 years? ?? Can this be happening?
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