Civilian NREMTP > 18D

[Antons]

Hi all,
First post out side of my introduction here: Click

I apologize a head of time since I already tried to do a forums search but couldnt find any new information on what I'm about to ask. However I'm a ANG member looking at cross training over to 18D from my current guard job. My civilian job is working EMS in St Louis City, and am finishing up my P license in a few months. I've heard that you must go through the 18D course, however I'm trying to find out if you are able to test out of certain areas of the 18D course if you already are a NREMTP to expedite training.

I know USAF pararescue lets you do this since they award them with a NREMTP license and with the under staffing the emphasis is trying to get trained professionals to their units as fast as possible.

Either way, I'm sure the 18D course will still be more than a challenge ontop of the expanded subject matter that isnt taught in the National Registry curriculum, so it sounds like one heck of a refresher course. But again, any clearification would be great.

Thank you.

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Antons

...I've heard that you must go through the 18D course, however I'm trying to find out if you are able to test out of certain areas of the 18D course if you already are a NREMTP to expedite training.

The answer to your question is here on the forums. Your search criteria may have just been too broad.

Currently there isn't a way for NREMT-P's to "CLEP" out of areas covered in NREMT-P certification courses ie: A&P, ACLS, PHTLS, BLS. It has been discussed before by the Dean of JSOMT-C but it hasnt come to be.

Also you cant cross train into 18D unless you are already hold an 18-series MOS. You can transfer to a NG SF unit and attend the course as a part of the SFQC.

I know USAF pararescue lets you do this since they award them with a NREMTP license and with the under staffing the emphasis is trying to get trained professionals to their units as fast as possible.

Its my understanding, from speaking to many of the instructors at JSOMT-C, that since the Air Force does there own thing with regard to the PJ Medic course that it is not much different, in didactic, than NREMT-P. Having said that, I have found the SOCM approach to trauma different than what I was taught during my paramedic courses. Then again I have only been a paramedic for going on 14 years now... damn I am getting old

Either way, I'm sure the 18D course will still be more than a challenge on top of the expanded subject matter that isnt taught in the National Registry curriculum, so it sounds like one heck of a refresher course. But again, any clearification would be great.

Thank you.

And if you think the 18-D course is a refresher for your medic certification you are going to be in for a rude awakening. Oh, one more thing. NREMT-P is a certification, not a license.

Hope I answered your questions.

Crip

[Eagle5US]

Well I guess that about covers it Crip

Class, please direct your attention to the new AI on the floor

Eagle

[x SF med]

"...so it sounds like one heck of a refresher course."

Bwahahaha!!!! Crip - I see your rude awakening, and raise a kick in the ass to Antons', 'Refresher Course'.

Anton- there's an old song "You ain't seen nothing, yet" that you ought to keep playing in your head during the 18D course - it'll come in handy - and 'Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" will be playing if you think you're going to skate because of your NREMT-P. Focus and learn, that's the key.

[Antons]

Thank you for the information Crip, it helped a lot.

[Books]

Crip -

Well, for what it's worth, a fellow in my class was allowed to skip med funds because he was a former NREMT-P and an Emergency Room Physician's Assistant prior to coming to the Q from the NG. Extreme cases always seem to find a way, eh? Certainly the exception to the rule.

There you have it: a six week boost in the course for approximately 3-4 years total training/education and some 10 years combined civilian trauma experience. You do the math. Oh yeah, he still studies his ass off just like the rest of us.

One of my instructors explained it pretty well, "You can only drink from the firehose for so long before you begin to choke and drown." Personally, I'm looking for a set of gills.

Drive on,
Books

[Eagle5US]

Originally Posted by Books

Crip -

...a fellow in my class was allowed to skip med funds because he was a former NREMT-P and an Emergency Room Physician's Assistant

I think this was probably the key statement...

PA