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**Roguish Lawyer** · 04-13-2006, 18:38

Have you ever seen one of those pictures where you look at a little part of it and think it's something, then you step back and look at the whole thing and say, whoa!, it's actually something totally different?

What are pictures like that called? I am trying to find a good one to use in a trial and am having a tough time.

Croooz · 04-13-2006, 18:42

Military manuals.

Try "Optical puzzle"

Sdiver · 04-13-2006, 18:58

S,

You mean something like this ??

Here's the site if it is.

http://www.sapdesignguild.org/resour...ackground.html

**Ambush Master** · 04-13-2006, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Sdiver

S,

You mean something like this ??

Here's the site if it is.

http://www.sapdesignguild.org/resour...ackground.html

That's it!!! Perceptual Organization

**Roguish Lawyer** · 04-13-2006, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Sdiver

S,

You mean something like this ??

Here's the site if it is.

http://www.sapdesignguild.org/resour...ackground.html

Not really. I have in mind looking at only PART of a picture and seeing one thing, then seeing something else when you look at the whole thing.

Maybe I should explain what I'm trying to accomplish. We represent the defendant in a case. The plaintiff's lawyer is going to give a presentation that will make our client look awful by focusing entirely on two terms of a complex transaction. Viewed in isolation, these terms make the deal look horribly oppressive to the plaintiffs.

In order to get the jury to stop hating our client, we need them to consider the entire transaction and understand that it is a good deal for everyone. The terms the plaintiff is focusing on are really not unfair at all if you understand the whole deal. I need to do something to get their attention early on, and I'm thinking about starting with part of a totally unrelated picture or photograph, then showing them the whole thing to make them want to hear about the whole story in our case.

Warrior-Mentor · 04-13-2006, 19:30

I think I know what you're talking about...one of the examples that comes to mind is a Power Point slide show I saw a while back.

Slide 1: Lots of skin that appears to be the cleavage of an attactive woman.

Slide 2: Zooms out and shows it is actually the armpit of Ponch from CHIPs.

Very disturbing.

Parhaps not right for your case...you want the ugly picture up from and the attractive one second.

JM

gunnerjohn · 04-13-2006, 19:39

Are you talking about mosiac of photos? This is where they use thousands of unrelated photos that become a great large picture. Or are you talking about the paintings that Rembrandt used to do?

aricbcool · 04-13-2006, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

I think I know what you're talking about...one of the examples that comes to mind is a Power Point slide show I saw a while back.

Slide 1: Lots of skin that appears to be the cleavage of an attactive woman.

Slide 2: Zooms out and shows it is actually the armpit of Ponch from CHIPs.

Very disturbing.

Parhaps not right for your case...you want the ugly picture up from and the attractive one second.

JM

Oh God, make it stop! I fell for that one awhile back. Oh the horror!

--Aric

**Team Sergeant** · 04-14-2006, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Not really. I have in mind looking at only PART of a picture and seeing one thing, then seeing something else when you look at the whole thing.

You may want to photo shop this picture...... kinda gives one an understanding of magnitude of things that are not readily apparent until viewed as a whole.

Seth · 04-14-2006, 12:38

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Have you ever seen one of those pictures where you look at a little part of it and think it's something, then you step back and look at the whole thing and say, whoa!, it's actually something totally different?

What are pictures like that called? I am trying to find a good one to use in a trial and am having a tough time.

I've never heard of a specific name for that type of photoset. In old photo-jounalism, it's known as a 'false prespective crop'.

Just find a large detail laden photo, that has a visual context to your audience or subject, then crop tightly to isolate an area of detail that mis-leads, through assumption or familiarity. Second reveal is the full image that relates more information and drives home the point.

For instance, in TS's iceberg image, isolate the cruise ship so much of the iceberg is omitted, next image reveals the unseen danger. Key is to start with large detailed image.

If you are up against a time crunch ( it's a trial, afterall ) I'm willing to help.

I've got a huge database of images ( No royality or copyrights ), so if you can broad-stroke the context, I can scrouge up some image candidates. You'll likely need them on poster board (20"X 30" ) for exhibits. If you are in a real crunch, I can make-ready the poster boards and get those to you in a few days.

I did this type of work for my household SJA, so it's familiar territory.

-Seth

Sdiver · 05-13-2006, 00:04

R. L.

Just saw something that might interest you. Was watching The Tonight Show, and Leno had Tom Hanks on as a guest. He brought along a clip of his new movie coming out on the 19th, The Da Vinci Code.

The clip he brought was exactly what you're looking for. The scene was of Hanks' character giving a speech and showing pictures.

The fist picture is of a person in a white pointed hood (looking like a KKK member). He asks the audience what this emotions this brings up. The audience answers, "Hatred", "Racists", ect. The picture is then pulled back to reveal that the person in the hood wasn't a member of the KKK, but actually a Priest of an order in Spain.

Just wanted to give you a heads up, that this might be something you're looking for. I'm looking for the clip on the web for you, but right now it's been NO JOY.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 05-13-2006, 07:50

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Originally Posted by Sdiver

R. L.

Just saw something that might interest you. Was watching The Tonight Show, and Leno had Tom Hanks on as a guest. He brought along a clip of his new movie coming out on the 19th, The Da Vinci Code.

The clip he brought was exactly what you're looking for. The scene was of Hanks' character giving a speech and showing pictures.

The fist picture is of a person in a white pointed hood (looking like a KKK member). He asks the audience what this emotions this brings up. The audience answers, "Hatred", "Racists", ect. The picture is then pulled back to reveal that the person in the hood wasn't a member of the KKK, but actually a Priest of an order in Spain.

Just wanted to give you a heads up, that this might be something you're looking for. I'm looking for the clip on the web for you, but right now it's been NO JOY.

Thanks, S.

brewmonkey · 05-13-2006, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Sdiver

R. L.

Just saw something that might interest you. Was watching The Tonight Show, and Leno had Tom Hanks on as a guest. He brought along a clip of his new movie coming out on the 19th, The Da Vinci Code.

The clip he brought was exactly what you're looking for. The scene was of Hanks' character giving a speech and showing pictures.

The fist picture is of a person in a white pointed hood (looking like a KKK member). He asks the audience what this emotions this brings up. The audience answers, "Hatred", "Racists", ect. The picture is then pulled back to reveal that the person in the hood wasn't a member of the KKK, but actually a Priest of an order in Spain.

Just wanted to give you a heads up, that this might be something you're looking for. I'm looking for the clip on the web for you, but right now it's been NO JOY.

Have you checked Youtube.com?

Sdiver · 05-13-2006, 16:02

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Originally Posted by brewmonkey

Have you checked Youtube.com?

Brew,

Thanks for the tip. Looks like it might have possibilities. Did a quick search over there and hit on Hanks on the Dave Letterman show, but he brought a different clip with him.

Will check back on it next few days and see if someone uploads the Leno appearance.

Right now, Google, is just hitting with the movie trailers.

R.L. .... I can tell ya, it's EXACTLY what you're looking for.

Sdiver · 05-17-2006, 00:28

FOUND IT !!!!

http://whatisthedavincicode.blogspot...an-obrien.html

S,

Here's the clip I was looking for. It's one of Hanks on the Conan O'brien show.

Click on the above link.
Find the clip of Hanks on the O'brien show link under the "Media" section. It should be under the advertisement for the movie to the right of your screen(it may take awhile to download...it did for me), it comes up on Quick time.
Once it's downloaded, instead of watching the whole clip, (it's something like 18 min long), click on the button that's two over, to the RIGHT of the Play button . It should take you to the end of the clip. Once there, hit the button to the LEFT of the "Play" button. This will slowly take you backwards/rewind.
The clip from the movie is about at the 17:15 mark.

The clip picks up right after the part that I mentioned above.

Hopefully this will help you in some way, give you a few ideas and such.

S