04-11-2006, 17:56
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YOUR education system at work - again
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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04-12-2006, 03:15
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Guerrilla
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We wonder why our children are "unsat" in reading, math and science.
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04-12-2006, 06:48
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Area Commander
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We wonder why our children are "unsat" in reading, math and science.
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Depends upon the school system or teacher. Yesterday my 6 year old comes home telling me about the pictures her teacher showed the class of how our soldiers are helping the people of Iraq and Afghanistan! The 6 year old continues by stating her teacher told her these are the good things that are not seen enough on your parent's television. I suppose the other side (libs, ACLU, etc) would simply write that up as indoctrination and their message as information! I already gave the teacher kudos this morning with a simple thank you.
I'd rather eat crackers and jelly for the rest of my days in order to send my kids to private school in this country....well this State anyway.
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04-12-2006, 07:07
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Nothing intelligent or educational at all about that filmstrip. Putting myself in the shoes of a kid, I wouldn't have actually learned anything from that "material" about anything Bush or the current administration actually did. Just typical Liberal propaganda.
I think that teacher should have been fired for showing materials with vulgar language to students without getting approval. Not to mention the highly questionable educational value.
When I was in High School, my History teacher wanted to show us Saving Private Ryan, but he was turned down by the Principal because of the "violence".
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04-12-2006, 07:32
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I think teachers need to leave politics and religion out of the public school classroom unless it relates directly to the subject matter of what they are teaching. I'd fire any teacher who broke that rule.
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04-12-2006, 07:50
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Guerrilla
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If you can, homeschool.
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04-12-2006, 09:45
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I think teachers need to leave politics and religion out of the public school classroom unless it relates directly to the subject matter of what they are teaching. I'd fire any teacher who broke that rule.
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Agreed.
Geography, English, and Math teachers have no business commenting on politics or current events in the classroom.
History, Political Science, and Civics teachers should be the only ones treading
on this path, and then, only at the proper point in the curriculum.
Your position as a teacher does not give you the right to indoctrinate students with your particular political spin, regardless of what the NEA says.
TR
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03-29-2007, 10:34
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I have no issue with home-schoolers, in fact I have some very good friends who have chosen that course for their children. Their kids are fine, well adjusted and do not burst into flames if exposed to sunlight. My daughter attends a public school. I won’t say which one because I fear some ACLU idiot or so called national “educator” association would show up.
My daughter has had the pleasure of attending school in several locations as we have moved around. She has attended a total of 5 schools up to the current middle school. We have experienced the DoDDs schools and public schools in various states.
The school she currently attends has been a pleasure to work with. Note that my daughter does extremely well in class and tends to be an over-achiever (wonder where she got that from). The teachers are for the most part very attentive. Mind you two gym teachers were, shall we say, “relieved” last year for interaction with girls in the middle school. Only one of the teachers was a male.
My daughter brings to school the values and morals that she gets at home. If the opposite is in effect then your “chi” is out of alignment. She holds her own on discussions concerning military and government because we discuss those things at home. She brings her Christian values with her because that is what she gets at home. She is not persuaded by the teachers (to the point of having an argument with an evolutionist science teacher) to change her moral values. She takes the information and applies it as necessary to complete the course of instruction. She doesn’t have to sell out.
The school band does in fact have “Christmas” concerts. The music played is traditional Christian Christmas carols. The book report she is currently working on is on several volumes of the Left Behind series. Yes, this is in public school!
No child gets ahead does make things difficult for the teachers, but it does not make it impossible and does not suffice as an excuse. Parents should demand excellence from their children, as should teachers from their students. You get out of the system what you put in. If you equip your children with what they need to bring to the fight they will be victorious. If you throw up your hands and quit then you get what you get....
Hope my syntax is correct 
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03-29-2007, 12:11
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Guerrilla
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When I think about them programming kids' young minds with this horse-puckey it made me mad.
But when I read this...
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It's important that the little Lego plastic person has some identity.
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...it made me laugh so hard I spit water out my nose.
Obviously, the teachers are the ones who wield the supreme tyrannical power in legotown. If the community does not adopt the teachers' views and values, the town is taken away and destroyed.
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04-02-2007, 14:49
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Originally Posted by stakk4
Obviously, the teachers are the ones who wield the supreme tyrannical power in legotown. If the community does not adopt the teachers' views and values, the town is taken away and destroyed.
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Oh No, there goes Tokyo, Go Go Godzilla!!! More Cowbell!!! (thank you BOC and SNL for making this comment on a lame ass educational system possible - brought to you by the number 6)
hijack / rant on:
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I am in my senior year of college for Business management and I was previously use to MLT English. By the way most schools have already transitioned to APA English or are in the process of doing so.
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OOOH, a business major - not really known for writing skills, are we? I can say this, I do have an MBA, but I studied Liberal Arts (English Literature, Language and Rhetoric; History; Anthropology; Philosophy) for my undergrad degrees prior to caving in and studying business to make a living - most Business Schools, IMHO, do a lousy job of actually educating anybody - they are trade schools. Ok educational and business creds established, here's the issue:
I believe you mean MLA, and according to the latest MLA guide which is used for most academic writing, 2 spaces after a period are still de rigeur (used by English, History, Anthropology, Philosophy, Journalism and Basic Social Sciences ex psychology). APA is a niche format for Hard Social Sciences, and Hard Science - why a Business Management program is using it is beyond me, it is a difficult to read, and so formulaic format that even Scientists hate - but is loved by PhD's due to it's obfuscative characteristics.
Read Orwell's "Politics and the English Language", get a copy of the recently updated "Elements of Style" (aka Strunk & White), and a good English Handbook - I'm prejudiced toward the Harbrace Handbook since I used to be on the team that edited / developed / published it (10th - 13th ed.) Those will give you a pretty good idea of writing for clarity rather than writing for distraction - APA's main objective, it seems.
hijack / rant over.
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04-02-2007, 15:01
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Area Commander
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Oh No, there goes Tokyo, Go Go Godzilla!!! More Cowbell!!! (thank you BOC and SNL for making this comment on a lame ass educational system possible - brought to you by the number 6)
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Sir,
No comprende...
Edit to Add: My History Professor was prior Army Inel, and a helluva speaker. He once told a class that "the rag-heads who are cutting off Our guys heads" should pay!
Holly 
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