09-21-2016, 10:13
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ATTN all you turds getting shot by LEO's:
When I get pulled over, I wait for instructions. I don't get out of the car and approach the LEO. I wait in the car with both hands sticking outside the window with my license and CCW easily seen. I have my inside light on if it's dark out. I want to make his job as stress free as I can. I answer with yes sir and no sir. Many of these people ask for what happens. To many times, you see someone get within arms reach of an LEO and they end up getting shot with their own gun.
These LEO's don't wake up in the morning and shout "oh boy, I hope I get to shoot somebody today", They say a prayer and ask god to help get them home safe in the evening.
DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD BY THE LEO's.
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09-21-2016, 10:50
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Therein lays the problem: all these little special snowflakes that have been given a free pass due to their skin color don't feel like the rules apply to them. If they would just act like a freaking part of human society, they'd get to go home and drink their 40's in peace.
Instead, they demand special treatment and then complain when they receive it....if they are still alive.
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09-21-2016, 20:52
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Go Deeper
Besides the fact that this happened...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHBUdenbT9w
Also since the unfortunate incident in Dallas that wound up with officer deaths..
Mix a little MSM and social media exposure
Add ignorance from all directions and...!
Viola! We have yet another national crisis on our hands.
PS (Yeah I get some perps get belligerent and challenge authority and are sometimes armed, but guess what makes the news.)
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09-22-2016, 06:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
Besides the fact that this happened...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHBUdenbT9w
Also since the unfortunate incident in Dallas that wound up with officer deaths..
Mix a little MSM and social media exposure
Add ignorance from all directions and...!
Viola! We have yet another national crisis on our hands.
PS (Yeah I get some perps get belligerent and challenge authority and are sometimes armed, but guess what makes the news.) |
You could go even deeper:
Police responded to a 911 caller who stated a disturbed man was walking around with a gun, threatening suicide. Furthermore: "Sources told Local 10 News that Cmdr. Emile Hollant was the voice on the police radio telling dispatchers and other officers that someone had a gun".
His aid worker intervienes during police activity. Should they have shot him? Hind sight with one you tube video that doesn't show the beginning of the incident from one perspective, says no. But why gather all the facts and the totality of the circumstances. Just go with you-tube.
Officer responded to a man with a gun, officers told by their commander someone has a gun. Officers see subject sitting in the middle of the street with an object in his hand and shoot.
I would suggest that they used deadly force due to bad info given by their commander. It's the commander that should have his ass on the hot seat, not the office that made a good faith judgement to protect the innocent.
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09-22-2016, 07:31
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I've heard that eye-witnesses make horrible witnesses.
We all know the media is incompetent, I present as additional evidence the editing (or lack of) present in the attached image.
On the other hand, this cnn article raises an excellent point:
Quote:
Attorney Damario Solomon-Simmons contested Shelby's attorney's account, saying Crutcher was complying and made no sudden movements until he was hit with the Taser.
As for the allegations that Crutcher may have been intoxicated, Crump said it's irrelevant. He pointed out that just Monday an alleged terrorist accused of placing bombs in New York and New Jersey and opening fire on police was taken into custody alive, yet Shelby felt she had to exact deadly force on Crutcher.
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Is the difference that the terrorist was apprehended by a team of better trained people and Crutcher was shot by a not as well trained single officer?
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09-22-2016, 08:48
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Originally Posted by Hand
I've heard that eye-witnesses make horrible witnesses.
We all know the media is incompetent, I present as additional evidence the editing (or lack of) present in the attached image.
On the other hand, this cnn article raises an excellent point:
Is the difference that the terrorist was apprehended by a team of better trained people and Crutcher was shot by a not as well trained single officer?
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Were the cops in Jersey not trying to exact deadly force on the alleged terrorist? I personally would not be too quick to call the Jersey cops better trained at least in the area of firearms proficiency. That idiot should be dead. YMMV
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09-23-2016, 03:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
Besides the fact that this happened...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHBUdenbT9w
Also since the unfortunate incident in Dallas that wound up with officer deaths..
Mix a little MSM and social media exposure
Add ignorance from all directions and...!
Viola! We have yet another national crisis on our hands.
PS (Yeah I get some perps get belligerent and challenge authority and are sometimes armed, but guess what makes the news.) |
Watching this and some of the other videos of cop shootings some of them look much more like a case of the trigger finger safety was malfunctioning rather than a blatant intentional shooting.
Last edited by RomanCandle; 09-23-2016 at 03:40.
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09-23-2016, 06:49
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In my observation and experience, female LEOs have to accelerate their Use of Force continuum because of their more limited ability to subdue or control individuals without assistance.
Think about it, if you are a criminal and you encounter a single officer, and it is a 130 pound female, you may be a lot more inclined to test her physically than if it was a six foot six inch, 260 pound male officer.
TR
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09-23-2016, 08:38
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
In my observation and experience, female LEOs have to accelerate their Use of Force continuum because of their more limited ability to subdue or control individuals without assistance.
Think about it, if you are a criminal and you encounter a single officer, and it is a 130 pound female, you may be a lot more inclined to test her physically than if it was a six foot six inch, 260 pound male officer.
TR
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Women can be really ornery, so when I encounter one with a gun I'm very polite.
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