01-24-2004, 16:46
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Survival Kit
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~daugirda/survival1.jpg
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~daugirda/survival2.jpg
A small metal tin-like an Atoids tin, but dedicated-not a repaint. It is coated with baked on OD Alumahyde, an extremely scratch and solvent resistant finish. Inside rides a microtool with pliers, blade, and two screwdrivers; a Maglite Solitare w/ battery, a Bic mini lighter, a liquid filled compass, a hacksaw blade, fishing kit, a selection of matches (3 kinds), a razor blade, a tinder cube, 8 ft of waxed cordage, 8 ft of brass wire, 3 safety pins, a ziplock water storage bag, and an iodine pad. Inside the tin is lined with rigger's tape or 100 mph tape. There are 2 types of strikers inside the lid, and the lid itself is polished enough to serve as a signal mirror (tested). The tin itself is held closed extra tight with a retaining band. Each is labled and serial numbered. Each one is built each one by hand, so special requests can be honored and substitutions made if possible.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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01-24-2004, 17:55
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I like it. Needs a whistle, and I would prefer a Photon III over the Solitaire. I like to have a couple of nylon sutures or a needle and some dental floss, and a survival saw.
You selling them, or is someone else?
I can see you with a crew of LBGs, assembling thousands of them in some Ecuadorian sweat shop.
I like this site:
http://www.equipped.com/
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01-24-2004, 19:03
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real survival requires
a real signal mirror.
a real knife.
Both could fit in that kit, forget the pliers and replace with a good Swiss army knife. I do not know of anything (besides demo) that I needed a set of pliers in the field.
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01-24-2004, 19:23
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My knife is usually in my pocket, along with a cravat, a Photon, and a lighter.
I would prefer the real signal mirror, and a pilot's signal scarf, which is one of the best kept secrets out there.
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01-24-2004, 23:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by SFG
a pilot's signal scarf, which is one of the best kept secrets out there.
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Guess so, what is it?
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01-25-2004, 08:31
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I think he is taking about the aircrew signal panel. The one you stick in your filighsuit and never take out.
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01-25-2004, 09:59
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I'm not selling them, another guy is. I don't know him, but he seems ok on the internet. Since they are only 25, I'm thinking about giving some as Xmas gifts next year, lol.
I have one similar I built myself. I don't have the fishing kit, and mine's a little heavier on medic stuff. And a real signal mirror.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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01-26-2004, 14:18
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Quote:
Originally posted by Greenhat
Guess so, what is it?
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Good job, Luke!!
"Panel Marker, Survival, Aviation Personnel"
36"x36" Blaze Orange signal panel on a very fine silk or rayon type material, compresses down to about the size of a golf ball in its packaging. VERY visible, and VERY small when packed. Could probably fit in a film can or stow loose over everything else to minimize rattles.
Beats the heck out of a VS-17 Panel for personal survival use.
NDD, just kidding, and wondering where to get them and how much. But if you do start up the sweatshop idea, I want in!
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01-26-2004, 14:27
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This is the email for the guy that's making them:
rbkolkman@comcast.net
phone is 260-744-4594.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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01-26-2004, 14:48
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IRT a question about the uses of the signal panel, here is one of them (and the requisite "Glint Tape" to keep Spectre off your ass.
An excellent tip from the recon guys, and this panel breathes much better than the VS-17.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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01-08-2009, 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
IRT a question about the uses of the signal panel, here is one of them (and the requisite "Glint Tape" to keep Spectre off your ass.
An excellent tip from the recon guys, and this panel breathes much better than the VS-17.
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That looks familiar! When I was on active duty and wore BDUs all the time, I had a piece of orange cloth sewn into my patrol cap when I was home on leave. Ain't moms great?
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01-31-2009, 14:21
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This is the survival tin i use alongside one i made myself, im a keen fisherman and i find the fishing kits in survival kits poor to be honest , the hooks are blunt as coat hangers compared to a packet of chemically sharpened hooks bought from a fishing tackle shop, just my 2ps worth 
http://www.bestglide.com/milsurvtin_info.html
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03-14-2009, 07:15
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Snare Wire Material?
I am just in the final stages of putting together my survival kit and have a question with regards to snare wire. I have heard that 24 gauge is what is needed, but what material should it be made from? I have seen brass, copper, aluminum and even green nylon coated aluminum.
I know this may be just splitting hairs, but if I am depending on this trap for survival, I want to be certain that I am not using material that may actually detract any animals. Suggestions? Thanks.
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03-14-2009, 08:14
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The old commo wire .
Used WD-1 single strand commo wire. snared an Owl with a Rabbit's tail bait. when you defeather an Owl you don't have much left to eat.  .
Tried 550 cord but wouldn't close a loop fast enough but was fine with drop type traps. That's all of my advice. Blitzzz
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01-26-2004, 18:48
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Pilots carry those?
Damn. Learn something new everyday. I carried one of those stuffed into a pocket sewn in the top of my PC for 8 years or so. Always thought it was a piece of panel from an orange parachute.
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