Be Prepared

[Pete]

Originally Posted by nmap

...If they invite them in, the load on existing supplies increases. That probably won't be an issue in the short term - but longer term situations occur. Given the amount of supplies most people keep on hand, one might need .....

A snow storm is a short term event - mostly. A few days and then things start picking back up.

I'm trying to remember the storm but it was about two years ago and a section of highway was blocked, I want to say somewhere in the S/W. People made their way from their cars to the nearest homes. A place was found for all.

By the time the storm was over IIRC one home had over 20 people in it. From the stories I recall, some of the homes got real low on food and they became very creative with menues.

Again - this is "Be Prepared". If you live near a section of highway that gets snowed over a couple of times a year would you have just a bit more emergency food and supplies on hand? Would you look out during a clear spell and see a car or two and go check them? Who would you find? A pregnant mother with two little kids travelling to see the grand parents for the holidays? Granted you could find the other extreme but "Be Prepared."

Guys, got my dates a little mixed up. The temperature during the winters of 76 & 77 were the coldest on record for Ohio, not really a blizzard in any stretch of the imagination. My apologies!

Here is the real deal that I am talked about in my past thread. It happened in January of 1978:

http://www.ohiohistory.org/etcetera/...bumPage01.html

http://www.bceo.org/78blizzardrev.html

[Retired W4]

Originally Posted by MAB32

Guys, got my dates a little mixed up. The temperature during the winters of 76 & 77 were the coldest on record for Ohio, not really a blizzard in any stretch of the imagination. My apologies!

Here is the real deal that I am talked about in my past thread. It happened in January of 1978:

http://www.ohiohistory.org/etcetera/...bumPage01.html

http://www.bceo.org/78blizzardrev.html

I was living in Dayton at the time. Drove from Middletown to Dayton that night up I-75 by staying in the tracks of the few semi's crazy enough to still be on the road. Once home, the only thing that saved me was a 7-11 on the corner. They got snowed in too. "Oh, thank heaven for 7-11". I had just left the OHNG,Trp D, 1-238th Cav. My buddies out of Columbus did a lot of great flying to save people and livestock.

Obviously I'm not recommending anyone depend on a 7-11 for survival, but you sometimes get what you need in the strangest places.

OK, I'll try to stop posting for a while. Being retired is a bitch!

Yep, she was a bad one. I remember the 107th ONG out Stow Ohio coming through on M-113's and large trucks on the third day. Then the air element of the 107th out of Akron Canton Airport provided air rescue. The same 10th ONG was the one at Kent State back in 1970.

[Ambush Master]

Originally Posted by Retired W4

I was living in Dayton at the time. Drove from Middletown to Dayton that night up I-75 by staying in the tracks of the few semi's crazy enough to still be on the road. Once home, the only thing that saved me was a 7-11 on the corner. They got snowed in too. "Oh, thank heaven for 7-11". I had just left the OHNG,Trp D, 1-238th Cav. My buddies out of Columbus did a lot of great flying to save people and livestock.

Obviously I'm not recommending anyone depend on a 7-11 for survival, but you sometimes get what you need in the strangest places.

Hurricane Carla in 1961. My Dad was the Marshal of our town and when Marshal Law was declared, he had our next door neighbor, who was a locksmith, open the 7-11 at the entrance to our subdivision. We recorded who took what and after it returned to normal, about 60-90 days, everyone settled up with the owner.

I got ALL of the .22 ammo, Rats and Snakes were everywhere!!!

Later
Martin

Hurricane Carla in 1961. My Dad was the Marshall of our town and when Marshall Law was declared, he had our next door neighbor, who was a locksmith, open the 7-11 at the entrance to our subdivision. We recorded who took what and after it returned to normal, about 60-90 days, everyone settled up with the owner.

Unfortunatly, that probably would never happen again in this day and age with the probable exception of within a small rural town.

[Razor]

A while ago, I figured I should make a list of the equipment and supplies I had on-hand that would be useful in a survival/disaster situation so I could more accurately assess what I still needed to get. Later, this morphed into a generic tool to get people started on thinking about their preparedness in relation to equipment. This list is by no means the final, comprehensive solution for everyone in every location, but it can be a start down the path of analyzing what you may need should a disaster strike your location. In fact, its not even the best tool for my own needs, but it does help me continually refine my disaster preparation.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Razor

A while ago, I figured I should make a list of the equipment and supplies I had on-hand that would be useful in a survival/disaster situation so I could more accurately assess what I still needed to get. Later, this morphed into a generic tool to get people started on thinking about their preparedness in relation to equipment. This list is by no means the final, comprehensive solution for everyone in every location, but it can be a start down the path of analyzing what you may need should a disaster strike your location. In fact, its not even the best tool for my own needs, but it does help me continually refine my disaster preparation.

Great list, hermano.

Thanks for sharing.

TR

[Gypsy]

Thanks for sharing your list, Razor.

[nmap]

Originally Posted by Razor

A while ago, I figured I should make a list of the equipment and supplies I had on-hand that would be useful in a survival/disaster situation so I could more accurately assess what I still needed to get.

Thank you, Sir. I can see I've got some glaring omissions in my own preparedness efforts.

[x SF med]

Went to the Collector's West Show this past weekend (another member of the board got a last minute table) and after much perusing and thought picked up a decent medical kit (finally) for a reasonable price (around $200, after my tailoring of included items - no pharmaceuticals of the prescription variety were available) I will pm anybody the vendor's name - he is essentially off grid and only deals in cash and Postal money orders...

The kit is essentially an M-17 fold out: basic items for vitals, basic trauma supplies, surgical kit, cleaning items, splinting items, basic first aid supplies - The kit comes in an ok bag - and it is self packable if needed, plenty of room. I saved over $150 by getting this one versus buuilding from scratch.

Oh, I also picked up some South African .308 / 7.62x51 for $65/140rds, in the sleeve. MRE's for the toy.

[Sionnach]

Thanks, Razor.

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by Razor

A while ago, I figured I should make a list of the equipment and supplies I had on-hand that would be useful in a survival/disaster situation so I could more accurately assess what I still needed to get. Later, this morphed into a generic tool to get people started on thinking about their preparedness in relation to equipment. This list is by no means the final, comprehensive solution for everyone in every location, but it can be a start down the path of analyzing what you may need should a disaster strike your location. In fact, its not even the best tool for my own needs, but it does help me continually refine my disaster preparation.

Good info. I have an old Range Bag packed full of Med Supplies. But it's mostly items for Trauma or minor cuts and Burns. The only Meds I have are over the counter. Your Med list is the first I seen with a simple explanation for what the Drugs are best used for. Are prescriptions required for all Antibiotics? Do you have a recommendation for an Antibiotic for infections, prescription or non? Infections from cuts, burns...etc.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Good info. I have an old Range Bag packed full of Med Supplies. But it's mostly items for Trauma or minor cuts and Burns. The only Meds I have are over the counter. Your Med list is the first I seen with a simple explanation for what the Drugs are best used for. Are prescriptions required for all Antibiotics? Do you have a recommendation for an Antibiotic for infections, prescription or non? Infections from cuts, burns...etc.

Whoa, easy Brother...those are questions better answered your pointy-stick-wielding range partner. Rumor has it he knows things.

[Doczilla]

While the list others have provided so far is comprehensive and excellent, I can speak only to choices for medications to carry.

Pain Control:
Tylenol, plenty of it
Advil, plenty of it. May be taken up to 800mg 3x daily for severe pain, barring kidney issues. May also be combined with tylenol for additive effect
Vicodin or percocet (rx): narcotic combinations with tylenol. I like percocet, as it has less tylenol than vicodin (325 vs 500mg), and allow the flexibility to take more than 2 at once if needed.
Aspirin. Not only is this a great anti-inflammatory and pain med, but useful for treating chest pain from suspected cardiac causes. This is a lifesaver, and if you can't get to definitive care, the ONLY lifesaver.

Benadryl (otc). Good as an antihistamine for allergies, rashes, sleep aid, cough, minor upper respiratory infections, and migraine headaches.
Claritin (otc) non-sedating antihistamine good for rashes, allergies, and minor cough but where you need to stay active.

Phenergan tablets (rx). Actually also an antihistamine, good for nausea and migraine headaches.

Zofran ODT (rx). Expensive nonsedating nausea drug which can be used on children, adults, and the elderly with virtually no side effects. Dissolves on the tongue wtihout the need for swallowing when you're puking your guts out.

Pepto bismol (otc). Good for nausea, indigestion, diarrhea. Has some antimicrobial effect as well for some types on infectious diarrhea.

Immodium (otc). Good for diarrhea and cramping related to it.

Miralax (otc). A good non-cramping stool-softener type laxative. Not as compact as other laxatives, but you'll thank yourself if you need it.

Lotrimin, lamisil, tinactin (otc). Skin that is warm, damp, and poorly cleaned is a magnet for fungal infection. Athlete's foot, jock itch, inframammary smegma, are quite treatable.

TempDent or ZOE (otc). Temporary painkilling dental filling material, available at any drug store. If you've got a broken off tooth or cavity, this will save you a lot of misery before you can get to the dentist.

Antibiotics (all rx):
Consider the types of infections that you will see in a disaster situation. Pneumonia is possible, but far more likely are skin and soft tissue infections, wound infections, UTI, and gastroenteritis, particularly from waterborne parasites/bacteria/viruses.
Amoxicillin/clavanulate (Augmentin) is useful for treating strep throat, ear infections, UTI, most skin infections. $4 at Wal Mart
Bactrim (trimethaprim/sulfamethoxazole) good for skin abscesses caused by MRSA (though should be combined with clindamycin or augmentin for skin infxn), pneumonia, UTI, acute severe diarrhea. $4 at Wal Mart
Clindamycin, good for skin infections (including those caused by MRSA), pneumonia, strep throat, UTI. $4 at Wal Mart
Ciprofloxacin, good for skin and soft tissue infections, acute severe diarrhea, UTI, serious abdominal infections such as appendicitis (this does little but prolong time to surgery, BTW)
Doxycycline. Good for skin and soft tissue infections including those caused by MRSA, URI, pneumonia, UTI, and yes, anthrax and plague. As well as gonorrhea and chlamidya. $4 at Wal Mart.
Metronidazole (Flagyl). Treats certain causes of waterborne diarrheal illness like giardia, entamoeba, and others. Also treats trichomonas, a sexually transmitted disease.
Nitazoxanide (rx). Will be helpful if you get cryptosporidium from your water source. This bug laughs at chlorine, by the way.
Mupirocin cream (bactroban) (rx). Apply to cellulitis and that which would be abscess. It will help.
Silvadene cream (rx). Antimicrobial cream for burns. Skip the "burn cream" in most first aid kits, which is essentially a local anesthetic and does nothing else. Lacking this, bacitracin will work.
Neosporin (otc) or bacitracin (rx). Doesn't matter which one you pick here. These will save you much misery if applied to open wounds before they become infected.

Steroids:
Triamcinalone cream is useful for a variety of rashes.
Prednisone oral tablets. a 5 day course will knock out serious allergic reactions, bad asthma, major rashes, and other inflammatory conditions gone awry.

'zilla