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Old 02-07-2010, 14:37   #1
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Although couched as fiction is a warning about EMP weapons and the devastating effect they will have when used.

It will scare the living shit out of you.

It will make you think.

An excellent read - rough and heart wrenching.

The Afterword should be read first, IMHO.
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Old 02-07-2010, 14:47   #2
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I read it. It is thought-provoking.
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Old 02-07-2010, 15:18   #3
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I think I have already recommended it here several times.

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Old 02-07-2010, 15:51   #4
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Based on the recommendations, I recently listened to the audio version of this story on a long drive. Kept my attention and concerned me sufficiently to take some minor steps to prepare. Those steps will be augmented with additional steps over the next year. It is that kind of story...believable and compelling. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Old 02-07-2010, 16:07   #5
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Next up in my reading Que right after I finish Band of Brothers again
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Old 02-08-2010, 17:22   #6
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Started this book yesterday before I went to bed, and just now finished it. Pretty gripping read. It got me curious about the details, so I'm currently going over the documents that the EMP Commission has drawn up, which you can view here:

http://empcommission.org/

Pretty terrifying stuff.
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I think I have already recommended it here several times.

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My search fu must be weak... it didn't come up...

The book transported me back to NBC School and NDWs and EMP coverage areas...
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Old 02-08-2010, 18:11   #8
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Although couched as fiction is a warning about EMP weapons and the devastating effect they will have when used.

It will scare the living shit out of you.

It will make you think.

An excellent read - rough and heart wrenching.

The Afterword should be read first, IMHO.
I sleep comfortably knowing guns and bullets are NOT affected by EMP.
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Old 02-08-2010, 18:14   #9
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I sleep comfortably knowing guns and bullets are NOT affected by EMP.
Knives, ball bats and claw hammers are pretty resistant too...
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:23   #10
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Knives, ball bats and claw hammers are pretty resistant too...
So are sailboats with 30 yr old engines and sextants, with paper charts.
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:30   #11
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It's a scary scenario, I finished reading the book a couple of weeks ago gave me a ton to think about. Unfortunately when Iran gets a Nuke it will be that much closer to becoming a reality.

I need to get my 76 CJ up and running, and my retreat in the mountains built in a hurry.
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:41   #12
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It's a scary scenario, I finished reading the book a couple of weeks ago gave me a ton to think about. Unfortunately when Iran gets a Nuke it will be that much closer to becoming a reality.

I need to get my 76 CJ up and running, and my retreat in the mountains built in a hurry.
Let me really scare you.. cannot remember where I heard/read it, but a couple of years ago the FBI relieved a White Supremist group in Maine of a 'dirty' bomb.

I worry less about Iran than our own homegrown loonies with thier own personal copy of the 'terrorist handbook". Remember OK City and all that?
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So are sailboats with 30 yr old engines and sextants, with paper charts.
I think I can still use a sextant...and an ephemeris...it'd take a minute or two...maybe an hour or so...
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I sleep comfortably knowing guns and bullets are NOT affected by EMP.
Yep.

But the power plant, water works, cell towers, gas refineries, farm tractors, any vehicle made after 1984 or so, to include the delivery trucks for food, fuel, etc. are not.

The millions of people living in your metro area will not be directly affected, except for losing all of the things above.

How much fuel does a hospital generator have on hand, and what do people do when that runs out?

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How much fuel does a hospital generator have on hand, and what do people do when that runs out?
I was in Cleveland during the 2003 blackout. What made things worse in Cleveland is the water safety system failed so there was no potable/sanitary water in the whole city for over a week. I can't speak to the generator fuel supply, but we had power through the day. The lack of water was crippling to the hospital. All elective surgeries and appointments got cancelled and surgeons were either 1) scrubbing in using bottles of sterile water, or 2) not washing their hands and double-gloving with sterile gloves. The hospital lost quite a bit of revenue for that week.

I don't think the hospital would've made it more than 5-7 days. It would be worse in a SHTF scenario where there are mass casualties from the initial incident then second and third waves of injuries/illnesses from the resulting chaos.

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