Masters of Chaos - Page 3

Stiletto11 · 12-04-2005, 19:05

I found it interesting that one of the two admitted to cheating on his land nav test by getting a ride from a guy in a truck. How did he know it wasn't cadre setting a trap? The reason I bring this up is they claimed RV sitters were hiding in bush piles etc.

**Bill Harsey** · 12-04-2005, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Stiletto11

I found it interesting that one of the two admitted to cheating on his land nav test by getting a ride from a guy in a truck. How did he know it wasn't cadre setting a trap? The reason I bring this up is they claimed RV sitters were hiding in bush piles etc.

Maybe the guy who admitted cheating on his land nav class was lying to the author to get someone in the cadre in the "stuff" for personal reasons.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 12-04-2005, 20:05

It's only cheating if you get caught.

Aequitas · 12-04-2005, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Stiletto11

I found it interesting that one of the two admitted to cheating on his land nav test by getting a ride from a guy in a truck. How did he know it wasn't cadre setting a trap? The reason I bring this up is they claimed RV sitters were hiding in bush piles etc.

It's funny you mention "traps." In my class we had a cadre member cammo up and literally sleep in a sleeping bag on the edge of the road at one of the more nasty draws. He tied 550 cord from one side of the road to the other at about shin height. His side was tied off to a bush that would whack him in the face to wake him up when some poor unsuspecting RK was running down the roads. Three kids got caught that night by that guy IIRC.

**Team Sergeant** · 12-05-2005, 09:00

One of the guys in the book is a member on here.

And lives a few miles from me....

Phantom · 12-29-2005, 17:03

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That's why requests like this bother me:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...niraq2004.html

Did you see the one of the Marine "SGT" with full name and initial listed, wearing what looks like LCPL on his sage ballistic vest over his digi's, with a combo of woodland and sage mag pouches, standing with hands in his pockets between two iraqi national guardsmen, one of whom seemed to lack nearly as much SA as the Marine, and the other who looked like he'd like to kill everyone there, if he could get away with it and there wasn't a camera in his face?

Blarney · 12-29-2005, 20:40

Just returned it back to the library, for a civilians perspective, it does say a lot, but nothing I can't look up to see on the internet. I'm suprised with the information that was presented and I liked reading the book. I was perplexed by the amount of names given. She even presented their names in the beginning of the book. Still, good page turner, I hardly put it down.

On a side note, Also read through "Down Range" a book that catologues the SEALS, that was pretty good too and the cover art was a funny thing to look at too. Just a suggestion to others that want to read of the other SOF personnel.

NousDefionsDoc · 05-27-2006, 14:29

Read the first three chapters last night and it is already pissing me off.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 05-27-2006, 17:12

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

Read the first three chapters last night and it is already pissing me off.

Why?

Monsoon65 · 05-28-2006, 17:08

I read the book last month and thought it was really good.

BUT, I do remember when I took the ISOC (Introduction to Special Operations Course) and the SF member giving the briefing mentioned that there were a fair amount of OPSEC violations in the first chapter.

Solid · 05-30-2006, 06:54

I second the lawyer's inquiry!

I generally keep away from these kind of books (especially after reading Imperial Grunts) because while filled with interesting stories I find that the authors often get carried away with broad conceptual arguments of which they (according to those that know more than me) have a poor understanding.

Always fun to read, though.

Solid

Warrior-Mentor · 06-07-2006, 01:03

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

Read the first three chapters last night and it is already pissing me off.

What's up NDD? I just picked up a copy..haven't started it yet...what's chapping your saddle?

bberkley · 06-30-2006, 08:01

I just finished it last night. I thought it was a great book. Lots of stuff I hadn't read about before, especially the early infils and the Scud Hunting operation.

PSYOP Rob · 06-30-2006, 08:13

I just finished it also, decent read.

Wha Daur · 06-30-2006, 09:02

In the process of reading it now, so far only some slight problems with it. Non concerning the US SF, in fact Im learning quite a bit more than I thought I knew. This may sound a little picky, but did anyone find that if you had no clue who the author was, you could still easily figure it out to be a woman (nothing bad in that, just some of the wording now and then).

I was a little taken aback about the PERSEC, the names, photos well said to much.

Other than that Im enjoying it so far.