Countdown to President Romney's Inauguration - Page 31

Sigaba · 11-05-2012, 18:49

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Imissed that. When did Obama say it was an act of terror?

Source is here.

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Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

The point ZonieDiver has been making about Romney's gaffe in the debate is accurate. Governor Romney tried to hammer the president on a specific point--what the man said in the Rose Garden.

Dadaleci · 11-05-2012, 18:49

I think Romney will win as well. People are increasingly progressive and want change all the time, so just changing the president after 4 years is good enough for them, rather than wait 8 years. And Paul Ryan is grabbing a lot of youth votes for Romney... (we'd like to think that the majority of voters are well-informed, but I think the reality is far from that)

America wanted 'change', they elected Obama, didn't get much change, so they'll probably change the president this year to make up for it.

That's not going by polls or stats, but just the typical American mindset, quick simple fixes, not long dragged out clinging onto hope after it appears utterly hopeless...

So Romney and Ryan get a lot of votes from youth, impatient people, progressives, rich, Christians/Mormons, business owners, business students, a lot of military (especially SF forums)...

While Obama really only has minority voters and staunch Democrats, a lot of whom are not impressed with him this time around.

Gypsy · 11-05-2012, 18:52

I would LOVE to see IL go for Romney. THAT would rock.

SF18C · 11-05-2012, 18:53

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I would LOVE to see IL go for Romney. THAT would rock.

I lived there for the first 18 years of my life, Chicago will NEVER let that happen!

Dusty · 11-05-2012, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

Source is here.The point ZonieDiver has been making about Romney's gaffe in the debate is accurate. Governor Romney tried to hammer the president on a specific point--what the man said in the Rose Garden.

Sounds like BJ Clinton's "is"-ish wordmincing crap.

Gypsy · 11-05-2012, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

Source is here.The point ZonieDiver has been making about Romney's gaffe in the debate is accurate. Governor Romney tried to hammer the president on a specific point--what the man said in the Rose Garden.

But, if you read that sentence he states "No act of terror... ", not that this was an act of terror. Not the same intent at all, IMO.

Sigaba · 11-05-2012, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Gypsy

But, if you read that sentence he states "No act of terror... ", not that this was an act of terror. Not the same intent at all, IMO.

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Sounds like BJ Clinton's "is"-ish wordmincing crap.

That may be, but that wasn't the point Romney was trying to make.

Dusty · 11-05-2012, 19:00

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I'm going to trust you. I'd love a good landslide myself.

Think about it like this: How many Republicans are gonna vote for Obama besides Colin Colonel Powell? Zip

How many Dems are gonna vote for Romney? A gazillion.

(Colin Colonel Powell is what Rita X calls him.)

ZonieDiver · 11-05-2012, 19:09

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Think about it like this: How many Republicans are gonna vote for Obama besides Colin Colonel Powell? Zip

How many Dems are gonna vote for Romney? A gazillion.

(Colin Colonel Powell is what Rita X calls him.)

I've never cared a lot about him, and think he is wrong as hell in his choice fot POTUS, but - with all due respect - I'll still refer to him as General Colin Powell.

ZonieDiver · 11-05-2012, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Gypsy

But, if you read that sentence he states "No act of terror... ", not that this was an act of terror. Not the same intent at all, IMO.

Who's "parsing" now?

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Sounds like BJ Clinton's "is"-ish wordmincing crap.

It worked for Clinton, did it not?

Dusty · 11-05-2012, 19:15

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I've never cared a lot about him, and think he is wrong as hell in his choice fot POTUS, but - with all due respect - I'll still refer to him as General Colin Powell.

The Colin Colonel Powell reference is from an interview Rush Limbaugh had with a radical activist named "RitaX"-a very funny interview.

Not that I respect Powell at all-I don't like racists- but I understand if you do.

Dusty · 11-05-2012, 19:16

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Who's "parsing" now?

It worked for Clinton, did it not?

You mean the Clinton who got impeached after bringing dishonor to the office of POTUS? Not really.

ZonieDiver · 11-05-2012, 19:18

I was altering this post, and while doing the edit a lot of other posts were completed, so I'm reposting. Sorry, it was "wine o'clock"!

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By the way, anyone see that late breaking news from CBS's "60 Minutes" that they just released last night? CBS had cut this portion of the tape when it was aired but is now making this public two days before the election.

It basically shows the President lied in the debate where he claimed he told people it was terrorism. This part of the tape that had been withheld by CBS shows POTUS saying on Sept 12, "regarding terrorism, it's too early to know."

Can we find a way to start indicting the idiots in the press as this would've clearly put to rest the false narrative the Administration was putting out?

A link to this reference would be nice.

The main point is that Romney said that Obama didn't call it an 'act of terror' - and those are precisely the words Obama used.

Romney misspoke, and got nailed "in the moment" - when it really counts.

There many ways Romney could have phrased it:

"You didn't specifically call this event an attack by terrorists upon our consulate" would have done nicely. However, he used almost the exact words that Obama used... and the moment was lost. Poor preparation, or poor performance after proper preparation. It was a moment to strike. Romney whiffed it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ya-act-terror/

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ROMNEY: I think (it's) interesting the president just said something which -- which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-consulate-in/

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No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

While some will say POTUS was speaking of terror in 'general terms' and not this specific incident... well, that's open to interpretation. No where in the transcript does Obama mention 'the video' and a 'demonstration gone bad' or anything like that. He does refer to it as an "attack" (or "attacked") four times. Right after the "no acts of terror" statement, he says, "We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act."

Face it, Romney misspoke - stepped right into the "L-shaped ambush" and POTUS was ready for him, and sprayed him with full auto while he was in the kill zone. Too bad... it could have, and should have, been different.

ZonieDiver · 11-05-2012, 19:20

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You mean the Clinton who got impeached after bringing dishonor to the office of POTUS? Not really.

I missed his being removed from office after that Senate vote, I guess. I was pretty sure he served out his full 8 year term... which is a pretty good definition of 'it worked for him' IMHO.

I'm not saying I agree with him, just that his strategy worked for him.

Dusty · 11-05-2012, 19:25

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I missed his being removed from office after that Senate vote, I guess. I was pretty sure he served out his full 8 year term... which is a pretty good definition of 'it worked for him' IMHO.

I'm not saying I agree with him, just that his strategy worked for him.

I know where you're coming from, Brother.