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Old 11-04-2012, 22:59   #361
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Nope. Landslide Romney.

The demons will send in the sharks big time, though, trying to extend the vote in NY and NJ, and probably SFO just for the hell of it.

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I hope you're right, my S. AZ neighbor!

However:

Electoral College -

Romney = 263
Obama = 275

I'll be drinking heavily either way late Tuesday... either from sorrow, or joy!
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:44   #362
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Not me. I believe Romney will be the next POTUS with over 300 electoral votes.
Concur.

I believed that even before the Skins lost.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:47   #363
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Swing State voter turnout is gonna determine this one - it'll be a "nailbiter".

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:55   #364
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Swing State voter turnout is gonna determine this one - it'll be a "nailbiter".

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...Although I would say that the "nailbiting" will probably take the better part of 1 - 2 weeks before anything resembling a final tally is discussed. That doesn't even begin to cover the time that all the lawsuits will take.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:21   #365
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...Although I would say that the "nailbiting" will probably take the better part of 1 - 2 weeks before anything resembling a final tally is discussed. That doesn't even begin to cover the time that all the lawsuits will take.
Unless it's not even close enough to go to the trouble.

Romney will take OH, FL, VA, NC and WI. That gives him a huge victory.

He's got a good shot at taking PA, which would make this landslide worse than the Carter lashing, electoral college-wise.

He may even take CO, if the Hispanic vote is less than two-thirds Obama.

What we really need is for that RINO Brown to whip Fauxahontas, and for Akin to somehow pull it off, as ill as he is with hoof-in-mouth.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:33   #366
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This being such a close race in the polls is what disturbs me the most. Think what the next election will be like. Even if Romney wins he will probably be blamed for what will happen in the next four years (economically).
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:49   #367
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Too little, too late?

Retired top military brass push for Romney
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times
November 4, 2012, 03:33PM

Five hundred retired generals and admirals are running an ad in Monday's editions of The Washington Times calling on the country to elect Republican Mitt Romney on Tuesday.

In plain terms the officers, who paid for the ad themselves, said they support Mr. Romney: "We, the undersigned, proudly support Governor Mitt Romney as our nation's next president and commander-in-chief."

The ad then goes on to list all of the officers, in alphabetical order, in four columns of print.

The retired admirals and generals said they decided to take this public stand to try to head off "having to live through four more years of what has been experienced since January 20th, 2009."

Read more: Retired top military brass push for Romney - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...#ixzz2BMNAl2SL
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:49   #368
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What concerns me is you think you answered some questions. You sound just like the people you rail against. You want someone else to solve your problem. You witness illegal activity by a know felon but don't report it. You see a guy on the dole and you're upset he gets help (I'm upset that he needs help) but you don't offer him a job. You didn't even come up with "A Modest Proposal".

Even Jesus didn't have a solution to the poor.
Hello again Dozer523.

I agree with what Dozer said, I'm upset that anyone in America (who isn't illegal) needs help in the first place. There should be enough jobs in America, by Americans, for Americans.

Being poor is not a problem, I've been raised in a poor family and struggled on my own for years, but I never complained, it's a simple life, but everyone struggles. My problem is with poverty, being in poverty can be fixed, being poor is just a result of population control. There are too many people, not enough jobs (at the moment), and I would like to believe an imbalance of wealth (ie sports players getting hundreds of millions when I think even ten million would be too much).

But I don't want to come off as too opinionated, I like to believe I have well thought out rational deductions rather than opinions, but I know that cannot be the case, so I'll stop before I sound like I'm ranting.

Agree with the Jesus quote too, the world isn't perfect, never will be so long as people have different views, which is perfect in its imperfection.

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This being such a close race in the polls is what disturbs me the most. Think what the next election will be like. Even if Romney wins he will probably be blamed for what will happen in the next four years (economically).
Devil's advocate: Do you think that Obama is being blamed for things that happened 4 years ago?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:59   #369
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This being such a close race in the polls is what disturbs me the most. Think what the next election will be like. Even if Romney wins he will probably be blamed for what will happen in the next four years (economically).
Rather that than an appeal of the 22d Ammendment and a fall into statism.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:06   #370
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Do you think that Obama is being blamed for things that happened 4 years ago?
Do you mean when he was a sitting (campaigning) and hardly voting Senator in the Democratic controlled US Senate supported by an extremely liberal Democrat controlled House?

No, I don't think that Obama is being blamed for things that happened 4 years ago.

But here is a list of just 50 of his broken promises with descriptions.
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Do you mean when he was a sitting (campaigning) and hardly voting Senator in the Democratic controlled US Senate supported by an extremely liberal Democrat controlled House?

No, I don't think that Obama is being blamed for things that happened 4 years ago.

But here is a list of just 50 of his broken promises with descriptions.
I don't know, Obama was pretty energetic about the "Born Alive Protection" bill. He felt that if a baby survived an abortion, it should be left to die.

A baby who survives an abortion, to Obama, is a "fetus outside the womb".
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A baby who survives an abortion, to Obama, is a "fetus outside the womb".
All the way up to age two according to some of these eugenicists.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:24   #373
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All the way up to age two according to some of these eugenicists.
Do you have a source?

By the way, the top 50 list, I'm reading currently,

#12 for example

12- No tax increases for families earning less than $250,000: “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes,” vowed candidate Obama. Yet as president, Obama raised the tax on cigarettes by 62 cents per pack. He also introduced a tax on indoor tanning services. And the president’s signature Affordable Care Act, aka ‘Obamacare,’ amounts to a tax on those individuals who choose to go without– or who cannot afford– health insurance.

Increasing taxes on cigarettes and tanning salons, that isn't taxing people who earn less than $250,000 directly, unless there were an empirical fact such as "All people who earn under $250,000 smoke and use tanning salons". Furthermore, it is always a platform of the Conservatives that the lower-income people should stop getting food stamps if they can afford cigarettes, beer, etc... So taxing cigarettes to make them less affordable and therefore less appealing to lower-income families should be something conservatives are happy about. I don't see this as a bad thing, so the list is at least "Top 49" since this one doesn't count.

Not to mention I've noticed at least a couple of these are quoting the U.K.'s Guardian, well I lived in the U.K. for a few years and I am aware of that publisher... They are the equivalent to America's Wal-Mart checkout line magazines "Cher gives birth to Alien Baby!"

(Guardian is very left liberal leaning and makes a lot of Conservative British angry) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
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Do you have a source?
Look up Princeton Professor Peter Singer.

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Look up Princeton Professor Peter Singer.

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Ah, I see, Singer is too controversial for my tastes to discuss on the internet.
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