Countdown to President Romney's Inauguration

[PSM]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

Mitt booed at NACCP .............

Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1664900.html

This isn't good but since it was were it was,I'm not really that surprised........

Big Teddy

Teddy, the HuffPuff is cherry picking. There was more applause than boos:

Full NAACP Speech

Pat

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Flagg

Here's a question about Romney:

Why does he choose NOT to attack the partnership of [the current president] with John Corzine?

Flagg--

Take a look at the polling data on voters' priorities. The type of corruption you're talking about does not rate high on the list.

Also, as the GOP has not exactly said "no" to building, ah, collaborative relationships with the affluent, how could Romney make a point about this relationship without having to answer tough questions of his own?

Finally, if the investigative process establishes that Mr. Corzine was incompetent (but not corrupt), then the Romney campaign will have spent a lot of energy, time, and money ineffectively. This ineffectiveness would, on its own, provide plenty of grounds of criticism. (That is, the president's supporters could say that, as a candidate, Romney cannot even identify issues that merit his focus. How can he be counted on to do so as president?)

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Flagg--

Take a look at the polling data on voters' priorities. The type of corruption you're talking about does not rate high on the list.

Also, as the GOP has not exactly said "no" to building, ah, collaborative relationships with the affluent, how could Romney make a point about this relationship without having to answer tough questions of his own?

Finally, if the investigative process establishes that Mr. Corzine was incompetent (but not corrupt), then the Romney campaign will have spent a lot of energy, time, and money ineffectively. This ineffectiveness would, on its own, provide plenty of grounds of criticism. (That is, the president's supporters could say that, as a candidate, Romney cannot even identify issues that merit his focus. How can he be counted on to do so as president?)

Roger that.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Flagg

Here's a question about Romney:

Why does he choose NOT to attack the partnership of President Obama with John Corzine?

For those unaware of John Corzine he is:

Former CEO Goldman Sachs
Former US Senator for NJ
Former Governor NJ
Former CEO of MF Global

For those unaware.....that is key. I would guess to say that if asked most people are familiar with the name John Corzine. But I believe you would find that a overwhelming number of people have no idea what MF Global is, was or did or that John Corzine was anyway associated with it. They have no idea what PFGBest, LIBOR, Derivatives and CDS are or how they affect them either.

The majority of Joe & Jane Public are in a carefree, comatose bliss as long as their little piece of the world remains in harmony. That is what the polling data proves.

And as Sigaba pointed out, Romney suckles from the breast of Big Money just like the Dems, and that includes many of the same breast as the Dems feed from. Romney isn't going to upset that apple cart.

As for Corzine being merely incompetent......look at the inside shills (coverup team) who did the investigation and who was the trustee. Those folks are covering up more asses than Corzines. If Johnny's head were to roll it would be a domino effect that would reach all the way to Capital Hill...it might even make the crash in 2008 look like child's play.


So what you are voting for this Election is again HOPE & CHANGE. As with all elections it is a blind vote because in reality you know that all those campaign promises are little more than a sales ad with super fine print you can't read. And the choices you have been given are the very radical Obama or his less radical twin Mitt Romney.

And guess what, just like health care you won't find out what is actually up Romney's sleeve until he is in office.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Paslode

The majority of Joe & Jane Public are in a carefree, comatose bliss as long as their little piece of the world remains in harmony. That is what the polling data [prove].

MOO, this assessment is strikingly similar to the "false consciousness" rhetoric one generally hears from the radical left.

If the data prove your point, then what accounts for a Gallup poll last spring that found that 77% of Americans are concerned about international affairs <<LINK>>? What about the ANES data indicating that Americans strongly believe that the U.S. should play a role in world affairs <<LINK2>>? Or the findings in a 2010 study by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs that use polling data to reach a conclusion that differs from your central point?<<LINK3>>?

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Paslode

And guess what, just like health care you won't find out what is actually up Romney's sleeve until he is in office.

But, unless one is blind, one knows what is up Obama, Holder, Big Sis and Hillary's sleeves...you "bitter clingers."

Anyway, Romney might be considered a placeholder until more aggressive opponents of big government become politically seasoned...you listening Congressman Allen West.

ETA link to Allen West embedded vid. I'd chew through concrete to see this guy continue to advance.

http://times247.com/articles/west-le...to-buy-a-glock

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

MOO, this assessment is strikingly similar to the "false consciousness" rhetoric one generally hears from the radical left.



If the data prove your point, then what accounts for a Gallup poll last spring that found that 77% of Americans are concerned about international affairs <<LINK>>? What about the ANES data indicating that Americans strongly believe that the U.S. should play a role in world affairs <<LINK2>>? Or the findings in a 2010 study by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs that use polling data to reach a conclusion that differs from your central point?<<LINK3>>?

Gallup:

Most voters in the United States

Most voters.....it should read Most Voters sampled


ANES:

"'This country would be better off if we just stayed home and did
not concern ourselves with problems in other parts of the world.'"

2322

Chicago Council on Global:

Only one-quarter of Americans think the United
States plays a more important and powerful role
as a world leader today compared to ten years
ago, down from a solid majority in 2002 when the
question was last asked.
• Looking forward fifty years, only one-third of
Americans think the United States will continue
to be the world’s leading power.
• Just over half of Americans think the ability of the
United States to achieve its foreign policy goals
has decreased

Of Americans........that should read of '2,500 Americans Surveyed'. They could have surveyed 2500 employees at the State Department for all we know....or Fortune 500 Companies....or Goldman Sachs.


Should you be more concerned about Abortion, giving money to Palestine or why your pension fund is getting robbed blind, no one is behind bars and our industries are getting shipped overseas? Should Abortion and Gay Rights be a benchmark for electing a President...I mean life will carry on with or without legalized abortion and gay marriage, but life will not be so grand if pension continue to get robbed and we continue the road to Zimbabwe.

People priorities are out in left field that is what polls indicate. And what I mean, they maybe concerned about the economy as the polls say...but what is the economy to those polled? It's more than MY JOB and collecting a pay stub at the end of the week, it increasingly includes John Corzine and the army of his kind, and the price at the pump.

International Affairs is more than doing good or meddling in other countries affairs.

Of people I talk to, a large portion don't care or know much beyond their job and the money they get from it. They just don't care how, where or why they get it. And they are just sure they are going to get that pension HR told them they had......and they have no idea the pension plan was invested in junk and underwater by millions of dollars.

Cramer gets on the tube daily and says to buy something and/or the economy is on the upswing and people believe him....just because he said so. Why?

People get excited every time the 'initial' employment numbers come out even though they get revised downward in the following 5-10 days. Why?

And when someone excitedly tells me the polls said, and I ask well what does that mean, 9 times out of 10 they don't have an answer.

And if the Polls say people are concerned about the Economy, Mitt Romney and President Obama are going to promise...wait for it...little more than a promise of JOBS and MONEY. And people are going vote for their man because they gunna get sum dat Obama or Romney money!!! Big Screen TV is coming! Hallelujah Jesus!

This election, like a poll gives you only two choices Yes or No.

Originally Posted by tonyz

But, unless one is blind, one knows what is up Obama, Holder, Big Sis and Hillary's sleeves...you "bitter clingers."

Anyway, Romney might be considered a placeholder until more aggressive opponents of big government become politically seasoned...you listening Congressman Allen West.

ETA link to Allen West embedded vid. I'd chew through concrete to see this guy continue to advance.

http://times247.com/articles/west-le...to-buy-a-glock

Well, but some would consider us blind for not seeing the light that Obama has given us.

A place holder.....I don't know if we have that much time. To be honest, Romney might make some of us feel better for awhile, but neither one of these two clowns can fix what is broken. I mean it is an impossible task for one man, especially for bought house boys like Romney and Obama. Romney and Obama are slaves to a master and in the chains of campaign donations.

I like what Col. West has to say, but you will need a whole lot of Col. West's willing to do a whole lot of ass kicking to get the ship back on course

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Paslode

For those unaware.....that is key. I would guess to say that if asked most people are familiar with the name John Corzine. But I believe you would find that a overwhelming number of people have no idea what MF Global is, was or did or that John Corzine was anyway associated with it. They have no idea what PFGBest, LIBOR, Derivatives and CDS are or how they affect them either.

The majority of Joe & Jane Public are in a carefree, comatose bliss as long as their little piece of the world remains in harmony. That is what the polling data proves.

And as Sigaba pointed out, Romney suckles from the breast of Big Money just like the Dems, and that includes many of the same breast as the Dems feed from. Romney isn't going to upset that apple cart.

As for Corzine being merely incompetent......look at the inside shills (coverup team) who did the investigation and who was the trustee. Those folks are covering up more asses than Corzines. If Johnny's head were to roll it would be a domino effect that would reach all the way to Capital Hill...it might even make the crash in 2008 look like child's play.


So what you are voting for this Election is again HOPE & CHANGE. As with all elections it is a blind vote because in reality you know that all those campaign promises are little more than a sales ad with super fine print you can't read. And the choices you have been given are the very radical Obama or his less radical twin Mitt Romney.

And guess what, just like health care you won't find out what is actually up Romney's sleeve until he is in office.

That's the thing.......to me it appears to be a choice between a Big Mac or a Whopper made of poop....either way, it's a poop sandwich.

Although I have to admit I'd LIKE to choose Romney.....but as you say it's like a choice between worse or worser.

I have to admit to thinking that it's almost a waste of time/energy to invest it in either of the two candidates, and best invested in disrupting the special interest money chain.

To be honest, I'd vote for pretty much anyone sight unseen if they were a decent human being, were surrounded by at least adequate advisors who listened to relevant SMEs, and they weren't corrupted by, or beholden to, special interest money.

How do you disrupt the special interest money chain?

I like checking out this website:

www.opensecrets.org

It helps me understand which politician is owned by whom.

Financial advisors have to disclose their holdings on TV when pumping an investment......wouldn't it be cool to see a Senator on CSPAN or anywhere in the media compelled to disclose relevant campaign donations when speaking or voting?

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Flagg

How do you disrupt the special interest money chain?

Don't buy what they are selling and/or support what brings them profit.

[MR2]

Poor Barrack, should he get reelected - think of the terrible mess he will have inherited...

[BOfH]

Originally Posted by MR2

Poor Barrack, should he get reelected - think of the terrible mess he will have inherited...

What mess? The private sector is doing just fine.

[Pete]

The President just happens to make an "unscheduled" stop at a local food joint, just happens to sit down with three vets - who just happen to be Obama supporters. After the meal as the President is walking out his aids pass out the 3 guy's bios.

And the MSM ate it up with a big spoon.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Pete

The President just happens to make an "unscheduled" stop at a local food joint, just happens to sit down with three vets - who just happen to be Obama supporters. After the meal as the President is walking out his aids pass out the 3 guy's bios.

And the MSM ate it up with a big spoon.

It looks like scripted reality TV has infected real world politics.

Maybe the thinking is that if most people actually believe reality tv is real, they might think that reality politics are real too.

Quite sad really....particularly the news media not holding them accountable.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Don't buy what they are selling and/or support what brings them profit.

Agreed.......but if WalMart is any example to go by in terms of NOT buying foreign/Chinese made product that can cause damage to the national economy....it's clearly not working.

[Inflexible Six]

Originally Posted by MR2

Poor Barrack, should he get reelected - think of the terrible mess he will have inherited...

Yes sir, apparently there is no statute of limitations on blaming the Bush Administration.