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Old 07-31-2013, 11:33   #61
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Time to throw this link up again.

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Old 07-31-2013, 11:46   #62
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Yeah, I tried the same thing when I was in culinary college, I kept telling the instructors the tests were racist because they only dealt with "French" culinary techniques.....
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Do they have a cool logo and tee shirt?

I'm not on a swat team. But I'll join if it comes with a cool baseball hat and t-shirt.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:22   #63
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Speaking of T-shirts and hats, probably not the best PR for on duty wear....LINK

What Cop T-Shirts Tell Us About Police Culture
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Old 07-31-2013, 15:11   #64
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I think that one of the things that encourages extralegal policing if not outright brutality is the increasing frequency of immunity being extended by Federal agencies to LEOs. For example, the above T-Shirt was printed out and sold to LEOs assigned to help with the 2008 DNC in Denver Colorado.

The DNC was categorized as a National Security event by the Secret Service and all LEOs were Federalized. Local jurisdictions demanded and were granted immunity for their officers and municipalities from any tort arising from this event. While Denver District court arbitrated any citizen violations of law, all claims against the Government had to be made in the Federal District court. A much higher legal bar to overcome. Officers knew it and acted accordingly. While there were few reported civil rights violations (two of which made national news only because of the video evidence), there was reportedly less attention to the rule and intent of the law than was normally applied. Many double standards. The infamous "Razor Wire Holding Facility/Concentration Camp" is one example.

Knowing human behavior as we do, how much of that "immunity attitude" is going to carryover when these LEOs return to their normal community duties?

In fact, Denver Police suffered a spate of serious police brutality beating cases in the years following the DNC. Reduced hiring standards or a push to hire for the DNC, the immunity, or just bad luck - who knows the cause.
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Old 07-31-2013, 15:14   #65
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I think that one of the things that encourages extralegal policing if not outright brutality is the increasing frequency of immunity being extended by Federal agencies to LEOs. For example, the above T-Shirt was printed out and sold to LEOs assigned to help with the 2008 DNC in Denver Colorado.

The DNC was categorized as a National Security event by the Secret Service and all LEOs were Federalized. Local jurisdictions demanded and were granted immunity for their officers and municipalities from any tort arising from this event. While Denver District court arbitrated any citizen violations of law, all claims against the Government had to be made in the Federal District court. A much higher legal bar to overcome. Officers knew it and acted accordingly. While there were few reported civil rights violations (two of which made national news only because of the video evidence), there was reportedly less attention to the rule and intent of the law than was normally applied. Many double standards. The infamous "Razor Wire Holding Facility/Concentration Camp" is one example.

Knowing human behavior as we do, how much of that "immunity attitude" is going to carryover when these LEOs return to their normal community duties?

In fact, Denver Police suffered a spate of serious police brutality beating cases in the years following the DNC. Reduced hiring standards or a push to hire for the DNC, the immunity, or just bad luck - who knows the cause.
It worked well for Hitler and his SS troops.........
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Yeah, I tried the same thing when I was in culinary college, I kept telling the instructors the tests were racist because they only dealt with "French" culinary techniques.....

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Nearly every NWS forecast office has a Severe Weather Assessment Team (SWAT).
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Nearly every NWS forecast office has a Severe Weather Assessment Team (SWAT).
But do they get the T-Shirt?
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Old 07-31-2013, 18:44   #68
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But do they get the T-Shirt?
It's complimentary with the $20 club membership.
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Old 07-31-2013, 22:12   #69
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In our department testing changes were instituted because not enough of a particular demographic were passing and the test was deemed racist.
If you're part of a "particular" demographic and you need NO assistance whatsoever then, that "particular" demographic (which needed the testing changes) labels you an Uncle-Tom.

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Old 08-01-2013, 05:49   #70
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Little restraint in military giveaways

Little restraint in military giveaways

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-im...tary-giveaways

"MORVEN, Ga. (AP) — Small-town police departments across the country have been gobbling up tons of equipment discarded by a downsizing military — bicycles, bed sheets, bowling pins, French horns, dog collars, even a colonoscopy machine — regardless of whether the items are needed or will ever be used..............."

The first 2/3's of the story is a bit humorous - it's the bottom 1/3 were it gets serious.
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When Cops Don't Need a Warrant To Crash Through Your Door

"Exigent circumstances" provide a multi-purpose end-run around the Fourth Amendment


The Fourth Amendment protects us from random invasions of our homes by police, right? We know we're secure in our "persons, houses, papers, and effects" unless the cops demonstrate probable cause to a judge and get a warrant. Except... Except when they don't. The fact of the matter is that police have a lot of leeway to bust your door down and take a look around if they fear that waiting for a warrant could lead to loss of evidence or danger to people. Or lead to something, anyway. That end run around the Fourth Amendment is called "exigent circumstances," and nobody really seems to be sure where it starts and stops. Except for the police. They know it when they see it.

On July 17, a law enforcement task force including federal and local officers barged into the Sarasota, Florida home of Louise Goldsberry after a brief standoff. The officers, looking for a suspected child molester in Goldsberry's apartment complex, insisted that the nurse's frightened reaction to the sight of a stranger pointing a gun through her kitchen window was all the reason they needed to assume their target's presence. "I feel bad for her," U.S. Marshal Matt Wiggins told Sarasota Herald-Tribune columnist Tom Lyons. "But at the same time, I had to reasonably believe the bad guy was in her house based on what they were doing."

What Goldberry and her boyfriend were doing was cowering in the presence of armed invaders. But that really might be all that it takes.

The problem lies in the definition of exigent circumstances — or, rather, the lack thereof. An unsigned article on the subject in the Alameda County, California, District Attorney's office journal, Point of View explained:

[S]trangely, the courts have been unable to provide officers with a useful definition of the term "exigent circumstances." Probably the most honest definition comes from the Seventh Circuit which said that "exigent circumstances" is merely "legal jargon" for "emergency," explaining that lawyers employ the more grandiose terminology "because our profession disdains plain speech."

The article goes on to explain, "Not only is the definition of the term elusive, the number of situations that are deemed 'exigent' keeps expanding." Where once exigent circumstances required a threat to public safety, they expanded to encompass the potential for a subject to escape, or just to dispose of evidence by, for example, flushing drugs down the toilet. Exigent circumstances now also include a new and looser category of situations involving "community caretaking" which, at least theoretically, justify some kind of immediate action, including kicking in doors without warrants.

oes the Supreme Court provide any guidence? Well...some. Said the court in 2006's Brigham City v. Stuart, following on a string of similar rulings, an entry and search is justified if it is "objectively reasonable" under the circumstances, that reasonableness being determined by public concerns outweighing the intrusiveness of police barging in. In that case, police entered a backyard after spotting juveniles drinking beer and and then walked into a private home after seeing a fight in progress through a window. The court ruled the entry and subsequent arrests justified. There's no check list to follow in making that call, leaving the decision to the officers on the scene. As the author of the Point of View article concedes, "Because of these developments, the term 'exigent circumstances' has become a bloated and almost meaningless abstraction."

But in the Sarasota case, the exigent circumstances were created by the police themselves. Louise Goldsberry screamed and cowered because a police officer pointed a gun at her through her own kitchen window. Marshal Wiggins and company used the fact that they'd scared the hell out of Goldsberry as the justification for entering and searching her home. That can't be OK, can it?

As it turns out, it just might be. The U.S. Supreme Court addressed the issue of police-created exigencies in the 2010 case of Kentucky v. King, involving police entry into an apartment after they heard movement in response to their knock on the door. The sounds, the officers insisted, could have been made by the suspects destroying evidence. Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the majority, "The exigent circumstances rule applies when the police do not create the exigency by engaging or threatening to engage in conduct that violates the Fourth Amendment."

After the King decision, the FBI posted guidance on its Website about when and how police officers could conduct searches in response to circumstances of their own making.

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In holding that the exigent circumstances exception applies as long as the police do not gain entry to premises by means of an actual or threatened violation of the Fourth Amendment, the Court eliminated the confusion inherent in the tests used by the lower courts. The rule announced by the Court clearly allows officers confronted with circumstances, such as those present in King, to take appropriate steps to resolve the emergency situation. However, officers must be mindful of the fact that they cannot demand entry or threaten to break down the door to a home if they do not have independent legal authority for doing so. According to the Court, to do so would constitute an actual or threatened violation of the Fourth Amendment and, thereby, deprive the officers of the ability to rely upon the exigent circumstances exception.
No threat to illegally crash through the door, no foul.

Pointing a gun through a window might constitute a heart-stopping threat to life and limb, but not necessarily to protections against unreasonable search and seizure. In a world of loosely interpreted reasonableness under the circumstances, it could pass court scrutiny.

Unfortunately, "could" and "might" are likely as close as we can get to knowing if a rush of police officers through a door makes the legal cut, short of judicial scrutiny in a given case. Police on the scene are empowered to use their own judgment as to whether an "emergency," defined ever-more loosely as time goes on, exists that justifies forcing an entry into private property in the absence of a warrant.

Fourth Amendment notwithstanding, we really do live in a world where screaming when an unidentifiable police officer points a gun at you through your window may be all it takes to authorize knocking your door off its hinges and dragging you outside in handcuffs.
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Unfortunately, "could" and "might" are likely as close as we can get to knowing if a rush of police officers through a door makes the legal cut, short of judicial scrutiny in a given case. Police on the scene are empowered to use their own judgment as to whether an "emergency," defined ever-more loosely as time goes on, exists that justifies forcing an entry into private property in the absence of a warrant.

Fourth Amendment notwithstanding, we really do live in a world where screaming when an unidentifiable police officer points a gun at you through your window may be all it takes to authorize knocking your door off its hinges and dragging you outside in handcuffs.
Relying on judgement of police on the scene rather than clearly defined rules, coupled with insufficient training, is going to get more people killed.

A recent personal example that turned out okay in the end is that in May my apartment just outside the border of DC was broken into. At 5 am on a Saturday someone forced their way through my dead bolted and door-bar secured door, and was met by a 12 gauge and clear instructions. 911 was called, officers were dispatched, and I made it very clear to the 911 operator that I was holding the person at gunpoint until police arrived. When the 8 officers burst into my apartment without announcing themselves before entering I had to quickly determine whether they were accomplices of the intruder, or if they were the good guys. There were no sirens, and I hadn't been told by the 911 dispatcher (still on the phone) that police had arrived on scene; the police didn't direct the 911 dispatcher to let me know they were coming in or even announce who they were after they came running through the door. Fortunately I recognized a badge, informed them who I was, that I had called 911, that the person nearest them had broken in, slowly set my shotgun down, and ended up being handcuffed until the officers calmed down and verified my identity. Had they used better judgement before coming through the door it would not have been as dangerous a situation as they turned it into.

IMO their training and judgement fell short and we're lucky no one was hurt. The ambiguous guidance being given by the courts, and leaving it to under-trained cops to make entry decisions on the fly while they're in the thick of things, is a very dangerous path to go down.
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Thirteen officers raid animal shelter to 'rescue' whitetail fawn. Really?

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"It was like a SWAT team," shelter employee Ray Schulze said.

Two weeks ago, Schulze was working in the barn at the Society of St. Francis on the Kenosha-Illinois border when a swarm of squad cars arrived and officers unloaded with a search warrant.

"(There were) nine DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs, and they were all armed to the teeth," Schulze said.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:03   #74
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"Operation Fawn-bin-laden"

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Thirteen officers raid animal shelter to 'rescue' whitetail fawn. Really?
Simply the fawn could have been armed. And there's no doubt in my mind that the guy had links to al quada using Society of St. Francis as a front. You ask why "Nine" heavily armed DNR agents and "four" sheriff department personnel? How else do you justify your job in the middle of a recession. This is not the rise of the "warrior cop" (I laugh every time I read that) it's the rise of the idiot cops. And let's not forget the drone and drone operators that took aerial photos.

All in all a few thousand dollars of taxpayer's money spent on "Operation Fawn-bin-laden".

Well done officers....
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Thirteen officers raid animal shelter to 'rescue' whitetail fawn. Really?
SWAT teams are needed to raid markets selling unpasteurized 'raw' milk....LINK....2 years old but still a good example...
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