02-10-2013, 13:41
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JJ, try a 200 meter zero, it is easier to aim low than high, more intuitive, and the hold is less. Not only that, if a head shot, you have all sorts of aim points instead of empty space.
Oh yeah, nice weapon, I have been thinking about getting one myself.
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02-10-2013, 14:00
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Happy birthday JJ - that's a pretty one.
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02-10-2013, 16:02
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JJ, that looks freaking awesome...let us know how it runs on the range!
Happy Birthday too!
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02-10-2013, 17:10
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JJ, that looks freaking awesome...let us know how it runs on the range!
Happy Birthday too!
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Thanks all...
It may be a couple days before I get to the range for any serious practice. Ammo for this puppy is running 75-90 a box..
I plan to order from the factory,, 30 USD a box,, but may take a couple months to arrive..
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02-10-2013, 18:14
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A friend of mine has a .450 Bushmaster, and the recoil is substantial. You won't need a lot of ammo for each range trip. I was done shooting his after 5. Ok, I was really done after two, but I gritted my teeth and finished the rest of the 5 I put in the mag so I wouldn't look like a pussy.
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02-10-2013, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Rob_Frey
A friend of mine has a .450 Bushmaster, and the recoil is substantial. You won't need a lot of ammo for each range trip. I was done shooting his after 5. Ok, I was really done after two, but I gritted my teeth and finished the rest of the 5 I put in the mag so I wouldn't look like a pussy.
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I have been told the Beowulf is about like a shotgun. The action mitigates the recoil somewhat. Mine does not have a break/flash gizmo, that is also said to help.. Will find out..
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02-10-2013, 20:37
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I have been told the Beowulf is about like a shotgun. The action mitigates the recoil somewhat. Mine does not have a break/flash gizmo, that is also said to help.. Will find out..
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I have maybe 50 rounds through them collectively from three or four range sessions.
If they think it kicks like a shotgun, they must be running 3-1/2" Maximum loads.
I would personally rank it with a stout .45-70 load.
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02-12-2013, 00:19
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02-12-2013, 00:29
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02-12-2013, 10:33
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JJ- If the Beowolf isn't accurate, you can always use it as a breeching gun...
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02-12-2013, 18:23
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Nice JJ. I too have a Beowulf 16" upper. No flash hider. Looks nice with the huge barrel hole facing forward. I did not like the A3 upper mine came with, so I removed same and put a modified (around the ejection port area) A2 upper on her. The only AR part you cannot use on the Wulf are civvie collapsable stocks. The Wulf will eat them, and bend the stock pins. I put a full stock on mine, as I didn't really need a collapsable on it. No special buffers or springs. Works fine with standard magazines too.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/DSCF2003.jpg
I did the Duracoat tiger on both in the above photo. I like the grip pod for the Wulf also. Laser is for night use. No aiming required. I likes mucho. GROG
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02-12-2013, 18:26
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NO MUZZLE BRAKE!?!?!?!
Lots of good comps out there; However, as I write this out it dawns on me that most 50 brakes will most likely be for 50BMG rifles.
The Turbodyne I ran on my CQ (will not work with 29" BTW) is extemely heavy and you can forget unsupported shooting.
I recommend grade 9 Ti to fab up a custom brake or can. Anzio Iron Works makes a great can with a brake on the end. If you are going to do a 50BMG, get a can with the brake on the end. There is SO much pressure on the BMG round that even though the reciol impulse is slower and longer, it is w-a-a-a-y longer. When I would shoot off of a bench. Me and the rifle would be pushed off of the bench. In the prone, even a man around 200 pounds will be moved backwards across the ground to the tune, 40 rounds is a couple of feet!
Okay, we are not talking about a 50 BMG, I get that. You may find yourself in a "tween" situation 50 Bea-this and 450 that because they obviously are not mainstream rounds. I would think anyone distributing the rounds or uppers for these would have a brake designed for them? If not, have one made. In my mind, anything and everything I want in my collection would be something I would want to go to work with and I can not imagine that a hammer like that without anything to cancel out recoil is practical. A brake alone is obviously going to be hard to live with.
I am a huge fan of suppressors. I do not have to be "ninja" quiet and if I do, a suppressed 9mm (147gr) or 45ACP without a booster will only give up the report of the primer, in this case it will be the projectile impact that will be the most obvious sound. The recoil reduction, muzzle flash and overall balance alone scream for a suppressor. Having the noise level on par with a 22LR and saving your ability to communicate after firing is just icing on the cake. Even a 50BMG is comparable to a 22LR, but, it is a bigger crack because their is more surface area.
You can save hundreds by building your own can, provided you submit a form 1 or it may not save you much money in the end.  Personally, I would go to Anzio and have them custom make a can with the brake on the end of it. With the tax stamp you may get $1500.00 into it and that may be what the rifle cost. But, just like the rifle the can is transferable and if you do not need money over night, you will get at least what you paid for it, sometimes quite a bit more when the market is right. (like NOW)
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02-12-2013, 20:55
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JJ- If the Beowolf isn't accurate, you can always use it as a breeching gun...
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I have read they are above average accurate.. AND also good breeching toys..
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Nice JJ. I too have a Beowulf 16" upper. No flash hider. Looks nice with the huge barrel hole facing forward. I did not like the A3 upper mine came with, so I removed same and put a modified (around the ejection port area) A2 upper on her. The only AR part you cannot use on the Wulf are civvie collapsable stocks. The Wulf will eat them, and bend the stock pins. I put a full stock on mine, as I didn't really need a collapsable on it. No special buffers or springs. Works fine with standard magazines too.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/DSCF2003.jpg
I did the Duracoat tiger on both in the above photo. I like the grip pod for the Wulf also. Laser is for night use. No aiming required. I likes mucho. GROG
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Agree with all. Mine came with the ACE stock. I have two other ACE stocks and like them..
Like your tiger stripes..
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02-12-2013, 21:00
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NO MUZZLE BRAKE!?!?!?!
Lots of good comps out there; However, as I write this out it dawns on me that most 50 brakes will most likely be for 50BMG rifles.
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Brakes on a hunting rifle is kinda new york city style.. Not mine. I also have been told that some ranger masters get a little pissed when you ask for 3 or 4 lanes so as not to disturb the locals..
The blow back pressure can hurt your ears,, including your neighbors..
I did pick up a used flash cage, kinda like a 50 cal bird cage.. I may get the barrel threaded and give it a try..
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02-12-2013, 21:42
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Brakes on a hunting rifle is kinda new york city style.. Not mine. I also have been told that some ranger masters get a little pissed when you ask for 3 or 4 lanes so as not to disturb the locals..
The blow back pressure can hurt your ears,, including your neighbors..
I did pick up a used flash cage, kinda like a 50 cal bird cage.. I may get the barrel threaded and give it a try..
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I can not see where you are going to gain much resistance with a flash hider and I agree that where as a brake will do a lot in the way of recoil, you do trade off the felt recoil for sound and even the gas pressure coming toward you. There are some that do well with a perpendicular path. I have seen them on a lot of AI weapons.
If you are going to use the weapon primarily for hunting, most states do not allow suppressors to be used unfortunately. I do not know what you are hunting with that caliber, but, DAMN!!! Other than the hunting issue, I would strongly advise a can, you will NEVER look back and will most likely look to suppress everything you own. The current technology is quite impressive.
I really have been turned on to the 6mm Creedmore for semi-auto apps. Louis Cockern is employed by our parent company and holds the world's record for the longest shot ever recorded at over 3000 yards! He was a member of the Navy Shooting Team and was assigned to Crane as I understand it. He talked me out of my NATO only mindset in about 5 minutes, but, they rising prices of ammo across the board left no argument to hold out.
The UK pushed for the 6mm before Winchester got the contract. Even today the game is rigged to keep the old money at the trough and I can say THAT with authority.
You know what you want and why at the end of the day, I am just throwing things out there. I have loved weapons my entire life and can talk about them all day long. I do not know everything and I learn something new everyday. That is probably the best reason I had to join the forum, the collective experience is quite staggering.
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