03-29-2006, 18:52
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Quiet Professional
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Kar 98K
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Originally Posted by HOLLiS
What country is your 98k from. I have a WWII 98K, but it has streight bolt.
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Germany 1938. Most of the straight bolt handle Mausers were from the eastern countries. Then there are the Spanish 48s that look just like the eastern 98Ks. Around that time about 90% of rifles had "Mauser" actions.
Pete
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03-29-2006, 19:04
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Consigliere
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RL how we doing on the PORN?
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YOU are doing GREAT! And some others too. But I am seeing a handful of posters carry the load for the group, which is not what I thought went on in SF . . .
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03-29-2006, 19:05
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Do you know them all?
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From top to bottom:
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk 1
Mosin-Nagant M1944 Carbine
Mannlicher-Carcano M38 Carbine
Mauser Kar98K
Japanese Arisaka, looks like it has a Type 38 stock combined with a shortened forend. The location and type of barrel bands is different from those on the Type 99 and more similar to those on the Type 38.
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03-29-2006, 19:09
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I don't have much to post, but here is something:
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03-29-2006, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Pete
Germany 1938. Most of the straight bolt handle Mausers were from the eastern countries. Then there are the Spanish 48s that look just like the eastern 98Ks. Around that time about 90% of rifles had "Mauser" actions.
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Thanks Pete, sorry I am not with it, not feeling too good, so here are a few that I don't need to explain.
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03-29-2006, 19:20
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Another Arisaka
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Originally Posted by Bob1984
Japanese Arisaka, looks like it has a Type 38 stock combined with a shortened forend. The location and type of barrel bands is different from those on the Type 99 and more similar to those on the Type 38.
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I have a second Arisaka. It's a junker. Just about only a stock, barrel, reciever and part of the bolt. It is similar in length but the barrel band is thicker and located farther back about half way to the rear sight. Even though it's a junker it appears to have inferior workmanship, maybe a late war production.
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03-29-2006, 19:27
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
YOU are doing GREAT! And some others too. But I am seeing a handful of posters carry the load for the group, which is not what I thought went on in SF . . . 
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TR said he wouldn't show his.
Edit - Disclaimer: I am in no way shape or form advocating RL's stated beliefs to the operations of SF or SF personnel.
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03-29-2006, 19:30
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Originally Posted by Chris
TR said he wouldn't show his.
Edit - Disclaimer: I am in no way shape or form advocating RL's stated beliefs to the operations of SF or SF personnel. 
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As much as I'd like to see more of TR's arsenal, he is the last person to be criticized for not posting lots of good photos on this site. Now some of these others . . .
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03-29-2006, 19:32
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As much as I'd like to see more of TR's arsenal, he is the last person to be criticized for not posting lots of good photos on this site. Now some of these others . . . 
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TR's photos are indeed appreciated, along with the knob creek accessories.
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03-29-2006, 19:45
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Originally Posted by Pete
I have a second Arisaka. It's a junker. Just about only a stock, barrel, reciever and part of the bolt. It is similar in length but the barrel band is thicker and located farther back about half way to the rear sight. Even though it's a junker it appears to have inferior workmanship, maybe a late war production.
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As Bob noted, the one you had looked like a Type 38 rear, but the front end and stock are not correct for the 38 Carbine. It is not a 44 or a 99 either. That is why I called it a short rifle.
Just a wannabe weapons man here.
I have burned enough of the TS's bandwidth with my weapons photos for now, some of the other guys need to step up. Pete, very nice collection, thanks for sharing. Yours too Hollis.
TR
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03-29-2006, 20:04
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Pete and HOLLiS, nice collections. Thanks everyone for sharing.
FS, nice pistols. First pic, is that some type of jewelry box or musicbox?
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03-29-2006, 20:25
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Meiji 38
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As Bob noted, the one you had looked like a Type 38 rear, but the front end and stock are not correct for the 38 Carbine. It is not a 44 or a 99 either. That is why I called it a short rifle.
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Here is the good one and the junker side by side. The top one is 41 3/4" and the lower one is 38".
Near as I can figure the lower one is the Meiji 38th Year Type Carbine. On the other one, beats the heck out of me. It looks right close to the 30th/38th Year Rifles. Stock to the 30th and sight to the 38th but it is shortened by about 4ish inches between the barrel bands. Distance between barrel bands seem to cut out the Type 99 Rifle/Carbine.
I'm not that up on rifles from Japan.
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Reason: Lost the picture
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03-29-2006, 20:40
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Top to bottom:
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
SMLE
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
Mannlicher Carcano M1938 Short Rifle
Mauser KAR 98K
Arisaka Type 38 Shortened Rifle
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Just for clarification.....TR posted his response in 16 minutes.
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03-29-2006, 20:45
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I'll play. Starting from the top:
1) M1 Garand
2) M1 Carbine
3) No. 4 Mk.1 (or 2)
4) Mosin-Nagant M1944
5) Model 1891 (This wouldn't surprise me if was a "variant" between two other Italian rifles).
6) Model 98 (looks like it may be a little too long for a 98k)
7) This is ( I am hoping) a Japanese manufactured rifle from WWII. I will go with an "early (before the war) manufactured Type 99 in 7.7mm caliber.
The Italian and Japanese rifles look as though they were built either before WWII or very shortly after it began. They both look as though quality control was good at the time of build.
Looks like Im a little late...
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03-29-2006, 20:59
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Originally Posted by Pete
Here is the good one and the junker side by side. The top one is 41 3/4" and the lower one is 38".
Near as I can figure the lower one is the Meiji 38th Year Type Carbine. On the other one, beats the heck out of me. It looks right close to the 30th/38th Year Rifles. Stock to the 30th and sight to the 38th but it is shortened by about 4ish inches between the barrel bands. Distance between barrel bands seem to cut out the Type 99 Rifle/Carbine.
I'm not that up on rifles from Japan.
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Bottom one is definitely a Type 38 Carbine.
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Just for clarification.....TR posted his response in 16 minutes. 
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Sorry, I was on another task for the first ten minutes.
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I'll play. Starting from the top:
1) M1 Garand
2) M1 Carbine
3) No. 4 Mk.1 (or 2)
4) Mosin-Nagant M1944
5) Model 1891 (This wouldn't surprise me if was a "variant" between two other Italian rifles).
6) Model 98 (looks like it may be a little too long for a 98k)
7) This is ( I am hoping) a Japanese manufactured rifle from WWII. I will go with an "early (before the war) manufactured Type 99 in 7.7mm caliber.
The Italian and Japanese rifles look as though they were built either before WWII or very shortly after it began. They both look as though quality control was good at the time of build.
Looks like Im a little late...
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No worries, the previous two to get it were just a little help to you.
BTW, 5 was definitely a 1938 Short Rifle, and I think that the Mauser is clearly a KAR 98K due to the short length between the sling swivel band and the forend cap.
TR
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