04-12-2007, 14:52
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I have two pics with the suppressors, but I'm still trying to find out how to crop them to fit the pixel size for the site. Patience my friend.
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It's just that if it had a can on the muzzle, it may make a passable putter, that's all. It'd be a big step toward being useful 
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04-12-2007, 14:55
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It's just that if it had a can on the muzzle, it may make a passable putter, that's all. It'd be a big step toward being useful |
Ahem, don't you have something new to show us??? 
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04-12-2007, 14:57
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Ahem, don't you have something new to show us??? |
Nope, Not me. Nothing new here 
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04-12-2007, 14:58
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Nope, Not me. Nothing new here |
Then how do you explain all the dead cats in your neighbor's yard? 
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04-12-2007, 15:03
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Then how do you explain all the dead cats in your neighbor's yard? |
I know nothing of what you speak, damned unfortunate actually. Shh, Be very very quiet.
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04-12-2007, 23:08
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A couple more of the family
Mk23 with Knights OHG suppressor and I'll let you guy's guess the rifle.
The glass mount is the Enterprise ARMS G3 Claw mount. YES ! it sits way to high for the standard thumb stock. I'm currently waiting on a custom stock with adjustable cheek pad with sniper grip.
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04-13-2007, 07:34
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Mk23 with Knights OHG suppressor and I'll let you guy's guess the rifle.
The glass mount is the Enterprise ARMS G3 Claw mount. YES ! it sits way to high for the standard thumb stock. I'm currently waiting on a custom stock with adjustable cheek pad with sniper grip. |
Without the right stock and a flash suppressor, that is an ugly weapon.
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04-13-2007, 11:19
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Mk23 with Knights OHG suppressor and I'll let you guy's guess the rifle.
The glass mount is the Enterprise ARMS G3 Claw mount. YES ! it sits way to high for the standard thumb stock. I'm currently waiting on a custom stock with adjustable cheek pad with sniper grip. |
It must be an exceptionally accurate "specimen" if you're considering spending any more money on it. Peregrino
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04-13-2007, 14:43
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It must be an exceptionally accurate "specimen" if you're considering spending any more money on it. Peregrino |
It's the H&K SR9 rifle. During the Clinton AWB H&K modified the HK91 by incorporating the type of stock without the pistol grip and lacking muzzle flash hider to comply with the AWB on import sales.
the SR9 also incorporates parts from the PSG and MSG family of sniper rifles.
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Yeah, it's ugly, hence the custom stock that is on order with the pistol grip. I havent decided what muzzle hider to put onto the barrel. Obviously I have to have it threaded. If I do have it threaded, then it's taken out of the inventory for NRA LR Rifle comp.
SR9 HERE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_SR9
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04-13-2007, 15:22
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I know what it is. I'm not busting on you; you've every reason to be proud of your possessions. I've just never been impressed with the accuracy of the G-3s I've used. And I've been playing with them for most of 30 years. When I was in El Sal the Bde arms room was full of unserviceable G-3s, mostly because of minor dents in the receiver. Not a problem for anyone with access to a 3rd echelon maintenance facility; a complete "no-go" for a 3rd world army fighting a war. They make good MBR's (almost as good as a FAL  ) but stamped (flexible) receivers, complicated scope mounts, and imprecise triggers limit their accuracy potential. The PSG-1 fixed the trigger and addressed the scope mounting points but I don't think it's any better than a good M-21. AFAIC the polygonal barrel is no better than conventional lands & grooves despite the marketing hype. FWIW - If you're changing the butt stock, why not go the full PSG route and add handguards and bipod? My .02 - Peregrino
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04-13-2007, 19:18
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It's the H&K SR9 rifle. During the Clinton AWB H&K modified the HK91 by incorporating the type of stock without the pistol grip and lacking muzzle flash hider to comply with the AWB on import sales.
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Actually, IIRC, that was a response to the Bush I Executive Order banning the importation of a wide variety of "assault rifles" with certain cosmetic features.
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04-14-2007, 06:33
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Actually, IIRC, that was a response to the Bush I Executive Order banning the importation of a wide variety of "assault rifles" with certain cosmetic features.
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I believe you are correct. My configuration was on or about the year 1989, so it makes sense. Although it's ugly, at least to you, the stock has the incorporated MSG90 buffer system and is possibly the least recoil of any .308/7.62 Nato rifle that I have fired. Although it has limitations as Perigrino has pointed out. Crappy glass mounts and placement being the first that I have complaints with. The new custom stock with a buffer system should improve this pitfal as well as my accuracy, but I'll need a bi-pod and potentially the 91 furniture up front to accomodate the QD Bi-Pod.
I'm not sure if I could replace the trigger with the PSG1 trigger or not, but it's worth a look on google or other H&K parts importers.
One of the local SWAT guy's used it in a bench rest about 3 years ago and he had 400 meter groups under 1/2" in it's current configuration. I cant do that,  but he did and liked it well enough to want to purchase it.
You could blame this configuration on Bush 1 or Clinton, take your pick. Imagine that, big government taking a perfectly good rifle and limiting it's real capbilities to the law abiding citizen like myself.
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04-14-2007, 08:02
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I was not there and have never seen your particular weapon shoot, but I have owned an HK-91 before, as well as having been issued several G-3s and PSG-1s.
I own one of the finest benchrest rifles I know of and have the privilege of being friends with several P100 shooters.
Frankly, I would have to tell you that the tale of consistently shooting 1/2" groups (or any more than two consecutive rounds into that group) at 400 yards with any rifle stretches credibility, much less an SR-9 doing it with an Enterprise scope mount. You can't buy ammo that will hold 1/8 MOA. The Gold Match and its clones from Olin and Remington with the Match Kings will barely hold 1/2 MOA, and I have fired a lot of them.
That is 1/8th MOA, and is IMHO, not possible with that weapon and the finest marksman on the planet. The only way that is happening is by being extremely lucky for three rounds, or firing a couple of dozen and selecting the three that happened to be in the same area.
Just my .02, YMMV.
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04-14-2007, 08:47
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I was not there and have never seen your particular weapon shoot, but I have owned an HK-91 before, as well as having been issued several G-3s and PSG-1s.
I own one of the finest benchrest rifles I know of and have the privilege of being friends with several P100 shooters.
Frankly, I would have to tell you that the tale of consistently shooting 1/2" groups (or any more than two consecutive rounds into that group) at 400 yards with any rifle stretches credibility, much less an SR-9 doing it with an Enterprise scope mount. You can't buy ammo that will hold 1/8 MOA. The Gold Match and its clones from Olin and Remington with the Match Kings will barely hold 1/2 MOA, and I have fired a lot of them.
That is 1/8th MOA, and is IMHO, not possible with that weapon and the finest marksman on the planet. The only way that is happening is by being extremely lucky for three rounds, or firing a couple of dozen and selecting the three that happened to be in the same area.
Just my .02, YMMV.
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Actually he fired two 20 round mags with SMK. I didn't spot him, his fellow team mate did. We pulled the "Down range" bell and they went and fetched the target. There was a hole about 1/2 inch off to the right. His spotter said that was 3 rounds consecutive fire.  Either he was missing shots, not paying attention, or this guy got lucky, even though he was off the mark with that group. I cant do it with any rifle. I'm lucky to keep shots with any rifle of any caliber within a 6"-8" of each other.
Obviously I would like to think the rifle is capable of this type of fire. However, not in my hands with my eyes behind the glass.
He kept the target, which I am sure is hanging on the wall of his department with a circle around the hole claiming "Expert"
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