Gun Pics - Page 23

06-17-2006, 19:23

kgoerz,

Of the three weapons you have shown which is the most reliable and accurate?

On the other hand, I am somewhat "jealous" of these fine battle rifles that have been shown. I am a "Vanilla" type of guy, hence no rails, one optic, and one sling for just a few of my toys. Does this mean that I am "simple minded"? Besides my dysfunctional ability to take a picture with a digital camera, would you all agree that I might be suffering from something else, like Major Dysfunctional Disorder with a touch of gadgetphobia? if so then I probably SHOULD start painting my toenails and basketweaving.

mugwump · 06-17-2006, 19:26

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Originally Posted by STR8SHTR

That is the next thing on my list to do. I have the Brownells Aluma-Hyde II in the closet waiting to be applied.

Thanks for the painting link mugwump.

Welcome. I don't have the guts to spray anything. Well, maybe the G23 with 10,000 rounds through it -- it's looking a bit tattered. Then again, it's got character.

mugwump · 06-17-2006, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Razor

I think you need a longer stock.

LOL, just got it. I'm slow.

kgoerz · 06-18-2006, 10:53

Of the three weapons you have shown which is the most reliable and accurate?

None of them if you don’t know hot to use them. Not being a smart ass. Actually I purchased one of each weapon I used in the Military because I had only to use Muscle Memory to operate them. If I had to pick one of those weapons for any Combat it would be the M-4 because it’s the most versatile of them all

EX-Gold Falcon · 06-19-2006, 11:56

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Originally Posted by kgoerz

Two others I left out.

GREAT DANES!?!?

Shudder.... I'm more nervous of the Danes then the weapons.

All my life I've only been bitten twice by dogs; both times it was a Great Dane.

Of course both owners said nearly the same thing, "Oh, don't worry, he's just being playful with you!"

Uh, sure......

Travis

mugwump · 06-24-2006, 14:40

This is my daughter's rifle, at least until her...what is he, step-brother?...gets home from Iraq and into a place where he can use it.

It's a Patriot Ordnance Factory P-415-16-P4X-SF (SA) piston upper on a Lewis Machine and Tool lower, with LM&T's Crane SOPMOD stock and a Tango Down grip. The fixed BUIS is from LaRue, as is the EoTech base. The sling is Larry Vickers' slick adjustable two-point (the daughter, godson, and I are all lefties).

Magazines were a mix of H&K and C Products stainless steel with MagPul Gen II followers. I never loaded more than 28 rounds per magazine. Infrequently the daughter-unit would stuff them until they screamed for mercy. Infrequently, I say, because loading magazines is apparently detrimental to the manicure. Or so I'm told.

We've put slightly over 1,000 rounds of mixed crap through it, literally without one bobble. (Thirty year-old PMC, brass and steel Wolf, very hot South African low-flash plus nice Black Hills Blue Box and 500 rounds of Federal 50 gr frangible.) To assess marketing hype, the rifle wasn't cleaned until after 800 rds.

The POF upper briefly sat on Bushmaster and RRA lowers, which I found very uncomfortable because of their retractable stocks and the sight plane of the POF upper. The top of the Predator free-float rail system is over 1/2" above that of the Bushmaster upper. If you measure from the top of the charging handle to the top of the Bushmaster flat top it's 3/32". On the POF it's 20/32". Add in the LaRue EoTech base and that red dot is sitting pretty high. With the Crane stock it's very comfortable and easy to get a consistent cheek weld -- not so with the others.

My daughter learned on iron sights and after using the EoTech now thinks I'm a dinosaur for insisting. She equates it to driving a stick shift (which she refused to attempt, judging it stupid).

We both hated the irons co-witnessing with the red dot and both greatly prefer them in the bottom third of the EoTech -- their location after using the LaRue base.

Bottom line? She likes her old Bushmaster better because it's lighter and "doesn't look so mean." It has no rail system -- M4 handguards -- and only LaRue fixed BUIS. But she likes the POF better because of the Crane stock and EoTech. This is all good, as I will add those and get the POF for my use, at least for a while.

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mugwump · 06-24-2006, 14:46

I had pic problems...

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mugwump · 06-24-2006, 17:48

I've been brooding about the "doesn't look so mean" thing I quoted my daughter saying. It was out of context and makes her sound like, well, a girl. She thinks much civilian weapon stuff is unecessary "fashion statement."

Well, duh!

"If you're not going to wear armor, why don't you put a decent stock on this thing?" Errr....

"Can I get an Eotech on my rifle without this giant rail? Oh, I can. Can I get a flashlight on it? Yes? Then why put a heavy rail on it? I want a light rifle." Errr...

Gene Econ · 06-24-2006, 18:59

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Originally Posted by kgoerz

Of the three weapons you have shown which is the most reliable and accurate? None of them if you don’t know hot to use them. Not being a smart ass. Actually I purchased one of each weapon I used in the Military because I had only to use Muscle Memory to operate them. If I had to pick one of those weapons for any Combat it would be the M-4 because it’s the most versatile of them all

KG:

Have been toying with the idea of picking up a M-16A1 look alike out of nostalgia. Would go well with the sight adjustment tools and the mass of 20 round magazines I have. Just not so sure I can still see the front sight well enough for performance. Also, I normally lose interest when I dry fire a service grade trigger prior to purchase.

I will take a look around anyway.

Gene

HOLLiS · 06-25-2006, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Gene Econ

KG:

Have been toying with the idea of picking up a M-16A1 look alike out of nostalgia. Would go well with the sight adjustment tools and the mass of 20 round magazines I have. Just not so sure I can still see the front sight well enough for performance. Also, I normally lose interest when I dry fire a service grade trigger prior to purchase.

I will take a look around anyway.

Gene

Gene,

You can get scope mounts or a halo sight that will mount onto the handle, which you probably already know. Also, maybe talk to your eye doctor., I have a friend who had the lens on a bifocal reversed, close focus on top on the shooting eye side only.

H.

Amato · 06-26-2006, 13:54

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M4Guru was kind enough to assemble the lower for me. I have plans on replacing the stock with a VLTOR, the pistol grip with a Magpul MIAD and the rail with a Troy or LaRue(its currently a Surefire).

06-26-2006, 14:00

Gene,

PM me when you can as I can help you in that endeavor.

mugwump · 06-26-2006, 14:06

Arrrgh! It be easier to see...

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Very nice, Amato. Pirates are always cooler than ninjas. Is that a Troy BUIS?

Suspect · 06-26-2006, 14:56

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Smokin Joe · 06-26-2006, 15:25

Work Guns.

I recently (with the help of ChandlerSniper) upgraded my daily carry items. I used to carry a Remingto 870 and a Kimber TLE (it was a pre-rail TLE so no light installed).

I now carry a Kimber Warrior with X200B (SL-18 switch is on the way) and a Colt AR-15A2, with a knights rail, Scout Light (with tape switch), Tango down VFG, GG&G rail mount sling attachment, Voltor stock, Magpul MAID grip, and Trijicon TA-31F. I'm currently trying to figure out the best way to carry an extra magazine on my rifle but I can't decide between a Redi-Mag or a mag pouch on the stock.