05-04-2006, 16:57
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Hey, at least I don't live in Vermont! 
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05-04-2006, 17:08
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Hey, at least I don't live in Vermont! |
Maybe we can give Vermont to the Canadians....... 
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05-04-2006, 18:03
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Is VT still the only state that any law-abiding citizen can carry a concealed firearm without needing a permit?
Guess it doesn't matter since there aren't any guns to carry.... 
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05-10-2006, 19:17
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Unlike them, I have no pics because it is being built. 
MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip. |
I sold my he-man club upper that TS was mocking me for and ordered a MSTN-built 6.8 SPC upper with a 16" Douglas recce contour SS bbl, mid-length gas system, MSTN QC brake, low-profile gas block, Stag upper, LMT full-auto bolt carrier, hard chrome fitted 6.8 bolt, PRI gas buster CH, and a PRI carbon fiber 12" competition forearm. And I bought an Acog TA31F for it.
And I do have a pic (from their website) of what my new upper should resemble....
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05-10-2006, 19:24
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Originally Posted by bberkley
I sold my he-man club upper that TS was mocking me for and ordered a MSTN-built 6.8 SPC upper with a 16" Douglas recce contour SS bbl, mid-length gas system, MSTN QC brake, low-profile gas block, Stag upper, LMT full-auto bolt carrier, hard chrome fitted 6.8 bolt, PRI gas buster CH, and a PRI carbon fiber 12" competition forearm. And I bought an Acog TA31F for it.
And I do have a pic (from their website) of what my new upper should resemble....
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Nice, can I have it?
Why's it got legs?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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05-10-2006, 19:29
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Nice, can I have it?
Why's it got legs?
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ND, you would have to ask MSTN. That's their pic. Mine will have a couple of bipod studs on the forearm, one for the opportunity to mount legs should I choose to do so, and one on the left side for those USPSA matches where you have to pick it off the table (Paul at MSTN said it helps prop the rifle nicely).
The lower this is going on has a Magpul M93B stock and SPR grip. My 16" M4gery is getting a new stock, either a VLTOR, or RRA 6 position.
And no, you can't have it. 
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05-10-2006, 19:37
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bberkley:
You Sir, have stroked one big-assed check!
Why not the Crane/LMT SOPMOD stock to go with it?
TR
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05-10-2006, 19:40
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And what does "M4gery" mean?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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05-10-2006, 19:59
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Dictionary
M4·ger·y (em-fôr'jə-rē, fōr'-) n., pl. -ies.
Civilian rifles made of some, (or none) of the components of the Colt M-4 Carbine in an effort to duplicate its appearance and therefore acquire the coolness by association with the operators who use the real M-4. M4geries are the favored weapon of MegaForce and mall-ninjas. The act of M4ging, especially the illegal production of counterfeit M-4s.
Wes and Paul at MSTN do build fine rifles. I have been to the shop and seen them being built, those guys are perfectionists. Wes's shop is cleaner than my kitchen. Not sure if that says more about him, or me. 
TR
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05-10-2006, 20:28
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M4·ger·y (em-fôr'jY-r, fMr'-) n., pl. -ies.
Civilian rifles made of some, (or none) of the components of the Colt M-4 Carbine in an effort to duplicate its appearance and therefore acquire the coolness by association with the operators who use the real M-4. M4geries are the favored weapon of MegaForce and mall-ninjas.
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I'm getting some bitchin CBA through my M-16ery!  LOL
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05-10-2006, 21:06
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Originally Posted by bberkley
ND, you would have to ask MSTN. That's their pic. Mine will have a couple of bipod studs on the forearm, one for the opportunity to mount legs should I choose to do so, and one on the left side for those USPSA matches where you have to pick it off the table (Paul at MSTN said it helps prop the rifle nicely).
The lower this is going on has a Magpul M93B stock and SPR grip. My 16" M4gery is getting a new stock, either a VLTOR, or RRA 6 position.
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Nice nice...............
I picked up a Browning Hi Power, last production run, when Browning was still alive......... I might show a picture or two..
right now I am trying to make a cleaning rod for my 88 commission, with Pete's help. Parts are difficult to come by.
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05-10-2006, 21:14
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That M4gery thing is gay. Let's not use that here please.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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05-10-2006, 21:15
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Nice nice...............
I picked up a Browning Hi Power, last production run, when Browning was still alive......... I might show a picture or two..
right now I am trying to make a cleaning rod for my 88 commission, with Pete's help. Parts are difficult to come by.
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John Moses Browning died in 1926, nine years before the Browning Hi-Power (P-35) was ever produced.
The design of the BHP was finished by a Belgian, Dieudonne Saive, who also designed the FN-49 and the FAL.
First production run was in 1935.
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05-10-2006, 21:20
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Guerrilla
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
bberkley:
You Sir, have stroked one big-assed check!
Why not the Crane/LMT SOPMOD stock to go with it?
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TR,
I've thought about getting one of those stocks, maybe for the next EBR I build. I'm kinda out of money for stuff like this right now.
I have to say Paul is a great guy to talk to on the phone, and was very patient at answering my questions when I was quizzing him on what parts, etc. I'm looking forward to meeting him when he comes to Albany in July for the USPSA Multigun Nationals.
Brian
NDD, I call it a M4gery because its not a Colt, and it has a 16" bbl as opposed to the 14.5. Its more of a Frankenrifle than anything else.
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05-10-2006, 21:23
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Originally Posted by bberkley
I have to say Paul is a great guy to talk to on the phone, and was very patient at answering my questions when I was quizzing him on what parts, etc. I'm looking forward to meeting him when he comes to Albany in July for the USPSA Multigun Nationals.
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I will say that Paul is one of the smartest, most gifted men I know, and that he will not look anything like you expect.
TR
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