05-03-2006, 18:55
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Just ordered something fun. Will post pictures when I get it. 
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05-03-2006, 19:41
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Supposedly, Crane procured some 16' barrels from Mike Rock for the MK14 project, SA copied the barrel profile, and VOILA! SOCOM M14.  |
Yes there was such an animal. Folding stock affixed to a issued fiberglass stock whose original stock was sheared off. Shot well and even functioned. Recoil was very manageable due to the vortex (?) flash hider. I shot it at 100 so have no idea how well it would hold at any ranges that make a difference. I called Crane and inquired as to how much it would cost the Brigade for about 110 of them. Needless to say, the cost was stunning and we went with Fulton Armory uppers. I have seen a bunch of these uppers go through our SDM courses over the last eight months. All function flawlessly and hold some very good accuracy with the issued M-855. That after a year in combat with no repairs or rebuilds.
3/2 SBCT got 220 rack grade M-14s prior to deployment two plus years ago. I was with them when they first shot them. I was surprised that only two had to have serious work done in order to function. They had a decent bridge mount on about 180 of them and a Leupold Vari X tactical optic. 3/2 found out real fast that just because they have a scope on them doesn't mean they will shoot any better than a rack grade. While in Iraq, some of these were altered using various stocks etc. 1/25th inherited them from 3/2. My best estimate is that 3/4 of them sat in arms rooms as guys didn't care for them due to recoil, weight, and length. The guys who liked them used them regularly. Most just dealt with their M-4 as they had a higher hit probability due to its low recoil.
My views of the M-14 are known in other threads.
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05-03-2006, 20:58
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Just ordered something fun. Will post pictures when I get it. |
What, are you now taking posting cues from FS and A6? Spill the beans already, before someone sends you a new skirt to wear to the office. 
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05-04-2006, 04:58
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I managed to get first in line to order one of these from John Noveske on Monday:
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...em_id=leonidas
Mine will have a 13.7" barrel w/ permanently atached KX3 to avoid the tax stamp. Because the Larue mounts are hard to get right now, the rail is going to be an inverted 12" PRI, which should save some weight and still give me the real estate for a foregrip and light. Optics are going to be the new Nightforce 1-4 NXS.
I can't wait, I've always wanted a combination flame thrower/ 1/2 MOA rifle.
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05-04-2006, 08:54
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What, are you now taking posting cues from FS and A6? Spill the beans already, before someone sends you a new skirt to wear to the office. |
Unlike them, I have no pics because it is being built.
MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip.
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05-04-2006, 09:21
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Unlike them, I have no pics because it is being built.
MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip. |
You trying to get disbarred? I cannot believe you wrote that!
Any LA attorney that can talk that sort of talk can run for Calif Gov.!
Good lord what have we created?
TS
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05-04-2006, 10:02
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You trying to get disbarred? I cannot believe you wrote that!
Any LA attorney that can talk that sort of talk can run for Calif Gov.!
Good lord what have we created?
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LOL, I am the acorn that becomes the oak!
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05-04-2006, 10:36
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Forget Governor, you can't get elected Sheriff out here talking like this:
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip.
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But, this just might work:
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LOL, I am the acorn that becomes the oak!
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05-04-2006, 14:24
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Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly. 
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05-04-2006, 15:48
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Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly.
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He does have several offers. And it looks like TS just got his up to speed too so he doesn't have to travel that far. Course I'm not an expert on transporting toys into/out of the Peoples Democratic Socialist Free Green State Republic of Kalifornia. After going through the trouble to acquire it he might want to leave it there to preclude border crossing incidents and borrow something at the training location. The usual Border Guard employee protecting the People's Sovereignty from dissent, free thought, and personal responsibility is well known for dilligence in the performance of his duties e.g. enforcement of the People's dictat against impliments of evil. (I better quit before I really stick my foot in my mouth!) Peregrino
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05-04-2006, 15:58
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Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly.
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I have a superlative instructor, thank you.
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05-04-2006, 16:00
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I have a superlative instructor, thank you.
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Non-resident, of course.
It would probably be illegal to import him to Kali.
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05-04-2006, 16:17
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
He does have several offers. And it looks like TS just got his up to speed too so he doesn't have to travel that far. Course I'm not an expert on transporting toys into/out of the Peoples Democratic Socialist Free Green State Republic of Kalifornia. After going through the trouble to acquire it he might want to leave it there to preclude border crossing incidents and borrow something at the training location. The usual Border Guard employee protecting the People's Sovereignty from dissent, free thought, and personal responsibility is well known for dilligence in the performance of his duties e.g. enforcement of the People's dictat against impliments of evil. (I better quit before I really stick my foot in my mouth!) Peregrino |
I thought you were doing very good in descibing the PDSFRGSRofK.
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05-04-2006, 16:40
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I thought you were doing very good in descibing the PDSFRGSRofK.
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LOL
But, uh, which state do you live in again?
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05-04-2006, 16:53
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LOL
But, uh, which state do you live in again? |
OH OH, well Not the whole state, only Eugene (still living in the 60's/70's hippy times) and Portland are similar to Oregon's Southen neighbor.
Our gun laws are pretty lax.
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