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Old 05-19-2008, 09:39   #136
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I am sorry, but the thought of you running around with a plush stuffed animal, a tattooed face and a pot on your head, trying to look over your shoulder at the map on your ass, while tossing C4 firecrackers, spraying bio weapons, and swallowing your wristwatch, over a ten year period leaves me speechless.
TR, you do have a way with words!

I can't stop laughing.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:42   #137
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Hehe....hehehehe....Hahahahaha.....Bwahahahahahaha haha.....

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Tattoo of the map of the continental US with rivers, mountains, forests, deserts etc marked clearly with as much detail as possible on my back. Tattoos of specific regions such as the Ohio valley, the Oregon trail route through the rockies, definitely California, Georgia, and other important areas along the route, determined by careful evaluation of maps and measurements of available space on my body put everywhere space is available.

So instead of "Dude, where's my car", we now have "Distorted, where am I gong?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EvA...eature=related



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Old 05-19-2008, 11:55   #138
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:47   #140
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All kidding aside.....

All kidding aside, wonder why Distorted needs a tatooed map of the Ohio River Valley when he plans on staying south of Tennessee

TR gave a very realistic problem at the begining of this thread. 100 lbs and cross the US solo. What would you take?

Granted the Lewis & Clark party dropped some items and picked some more up along the way. At 33 people in the regular party they were taking just under 125 lbs of supplies per man. Around 5 1/2 pounds of black powder per man in lead cans but only one rifle per 3 men.

They took a good number of Hard Cover Books as well.
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Old 05-19-2008, 13:55   #141
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I'm sorry but I'll have to include 4 bricks.

http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=438

Pack better than coffee and I'll need a good fix every few days. Can reuse them until they produce only clear water.
Great find! I would imagine it being a usefull trading commodity as well.
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Old 05-19-2008, 14:32   #142
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Great Thread TR!

I am 25 years old, I have no military field training experience, but I was a Cub Scout, Webelos and Boy Scout - never made Eagle though. Been on a number of hikes and campouts in the South - anywhere from a weekend to two weeks at a time. I lived in North East Mexico for two years as a missionary and walked or biked anywhere from 10-15 miles a day.



Can this be accomplished successfully?

I believe it can, so yes.

Do you accept the challenge?

Yes.

Where do you start?

I would start at either St. Augustine, Florida or Savannah Georgia, probably St. Augustine.

What route do you take?

St. Augustine to Atlanta to Nauvoo IL or St. Louis MO, from there make my way to Seattle WA.
I would start in the spring and make my way to Nauvoo or St. Louis by Christmas, and stay there until April, then make my way to the Northwest.

Where do you plan to finish?

Seattle Washington, or somewhere in the Northwest.

How long do you think it will take you?

Anywhere from 18 to 24 months, closer to 24 months.

What is in your field gear?

A good durable, reliable pack. Hygiene kit, soap, toothpaste, shaving gel, razors, toothbrushes, deodorant (maybe), Gold Bond powder, finger nail clippers, rubbing alcohol. First Aid kit (bandages, pain killers as in Motrin and Tylenol, rubbing alcohol, antiseptic, and whatever else that is useful in a first aid kit). MREs for emergencies only. Camelbak and a couple water containers. Good boots (I used the same pair of shoes for the whole time I was in Mexico...Doc Martins). Beeswax for the boots. Two rolls of duct tape, 550 cord, climbing rope with minimal climbing gear. Two pair of everything for clothes, except socks, bring multiple pair of socks. A shemagh, theres lots you can do with that. Salt, pepper and other spices for myself and for trade. Nails and pins for my use and trade. Something to wrap your ankles and calfs in to protect you from snake bites and such. I would bring a two man lightweight tent, a mummy bag, wool blanket, and some sort of pad to sleep on. A good kinectic watch. And other stuff that I cant think of right now.

What modern items are critical, and what items from the period will work for you?

Clothing would be critical for me, and I would use the spices and whatever would be useful.

What are your priorities?

My health, safety and completing the trek.

How will you carry it?

Some sort of pack, would have to do research to find the best one I am looking for.

What firearms will you take?

This is a tough one to decide on. I would bring my trusty bolt action Springfield 30-06 for hunting, XD45 for two legged critter and protection from them scary animals out in the wild. I was thinking of bringing a .22 rifle instead with lots of ammo and shoot small game along my way. No point in shooting deer, buffalo and such if you are not planning on staying there very long. Have the small rifle to hunt and the big handgun for protection.
Was also thinking of bringing a compound bow with 10-20 arrows. You could reuse the arrows until they broke.

How much ammo, accessories, etc.?

30-06, I would bring 300 rounds, XD45 100-150 rounds.
If I were to bring the .22 rifle 750-1000 rounds. Bow, I would bring 10-20 arrows. Some sort of cleaning kit, just in case.

What edged tools do you take?

My small Gerber knife, a Leatherman, a good 7" knife and another one to do pretty much anything. A hacthet, with a hammer on one side, a saw and an e-tool.

What navigational aids do you take?

A couple compasses, maps

What do you think your odds are of successfully completing this journey?

50%

What do you do in the 30 days before you leave?

Toughen up my feet, do all the studying I can of the route I will be taking, and learn how to make a fire without lighters or anything like that.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:49   #143
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Originally posted by TR: Maps, as mentioned before, are going to be very heavy. You are going to need at least 185 sheets, if you can keep your course straight as an arrow within the 15 mile or so N-S height of the map. That is enough to paper the roof of a small house. If you want to allow for a little drifting, bypassing, or exploring, you will need to double or triple that number.

I have been unable to compile all the individual weights thus far without a quality scale, but as far as the maps go, I had the idea of scaling down the 1:24,000 maps. One sheet that can be rolled up to weigh about 2 lbs. Miniaturize the maps/protractor to where they need to be read by a magnifying glass (which would be included in the fire starting equipment).
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:46   #144
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Change 1

The plan has been fragged.

You may take another person back with you, if you are willing to split the money with them 50-50.

Do you take someone else with you?

What characteristics or skills would you look for?

How would this affect your plan, and how would you modify it?

Would you keep the same route, timeline, start and end points, and general movement plan?

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Old 06-10-2008, 08:05   #145
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18D

Other than the skinny 18D packed on the top of the rucksack?


OK - a well trained 18D. Prep time spent in a crash course on Native Medicine and sign language.

A "Medicine Man" would add to the trip in many ways.

Same route and time, up the Potomac, over to the Ohio, down the Mississippi, up the Arkansas/Canadian into Mission Country. Stay along that line to the LA area.
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I would want someone who knows geography and the difference between North and South, that takes AngelsSix out of the picture.

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The plan has been fragged.

You may take another person back with you, if you are willing to split the money with them 50-50.

1) Do you take someone else with you?

2) What characteristics or skills would you look for?

3) How would this affect your plan, and how would you modify it?

4) Would you keep the same route, timeline, start and end points, and general movement plan?

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1) Yes.

2) Someone with somewhat of the same personal traits as I have, (ie. sense of humor, sense of adventure, ability to handle/carry a 20' machete ). We'd be together for along time, so of course we'd have to get along.

3) I would like to stay with the original plan.

4) I still like the Southern route, but of course I'd get input from my traveling companion, and decide which would be the best route. With a second person of course, they'd be packing supplies as well.
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If I had to take a partner, I suppose I’d take Distorted since he’s got the map.

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Tattoo of the map of the continental US with rivers, mountains, forests, deserts etc marked clearly with as much detail as possible on my back. Tattoos of specific regions such as the Ohio valley, the Oregon trail route through the rockies, definitely California, Georgia, and other important areas along the route, determined by careful evaluation of maps and measurements of available space on my body put everywhere space is available.
Otherwise, I’d go alone, if I went at all. The money just doesn’t entice me enough. The adventure itself might. The idea of being able to witness the early development of the nation would be exciting…in the planning stages. In fact, you’d only see what’s happening within a few hundred yards of your position as you moved across the country.

Having a companion would increase the number of bones that could break, possible allergies, noise, illnesses, mishaps, and induce the possibility of conflict.

I can see SF guys choosing a former teammate as a partner because of pre-established trust. Not being SF, I have no such companion.

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I would want someone who knows geography and the difference between North and South, that takes AngelsSix out of the picture.

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Ah, you meanie, fragging me in a thread I almost missed!! For shame!!

You see, we Northerners get a little confused when we move down South........
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Can this be accomplished successfully?

Yes, it can accomplished by staying on the river and only stopping to hunt, eat, and sleep. With a little exploring along the river banks. With a 30 day limit, your going to have to use the "interstate" (rivers) to your advantage and stay on course for your target date to meet with the time machine.

Do you accept the challenge?

Yes.

Where do you start?

Ohio River

What route do you take?

I would try to keep to the same path, but I might wonder around some.

Where do you plan to finish?

What is now, Seatle Washington.

How long do you think it will take you?

I would hope to be done by the 29th day.

What is in your field gear?

Rope, thermal gear, first aide gear, "snake oil", canteen(s), gloves.

What modern items are critical, and what items from the period will work for you?

Critical Items that I would take from the present to the past.
a) night vision (cheap Mono's)
b) batteries
c) compass/gps finder
d) zippo
e) zippo fluid
f) wet stone
g) topo map
h) flashlight


Items from that period that would work for me.
a) canoe


What are your priorities?

Take pictures of the route, animals, people (if contact made), plot my course on the river and document my travels for future parties.

How will you carry it?

Majority of what I carry will be left in the canoe, so that way I can stay mobile on the land. My primary source of travel would be done on the water. When I left the water it would be to take pictures and document wildlife. The lighter the gear the faster I can move on land.

What firearms will you take?

a) 30-30 Marlin
I) for eating purpose (Deer)
II) no need for a semi or auto because the lever action will be the fastest shooting weapon in the time. Easy to repair a lever action than a semi or auto, in this era.
III) great "brush" gun and you can get distance shots off if needed, I would not advise shooting at anything over 100yrds. If you cannot kill it with one shot, dont shoot.

b) .22(long) revolver
I) small game (rabbits, birds, snakes...etc)
II) better than throwing a rock


How much ammo, accessories, etc.?

a) 250 rounds for my 30-30
b) 500 rounds for my .22 long pistol
c) 2 bottles of lighter fluid
d) a pack of extra strikers for my zippo
e) 2 packs of small fishing hooks
f) a roll of 6lb tess fishing line
g) 4 packs of batteries


What edged tools do you take?

a) Leatherman
b) Puma Knife (fixed blade for skinning game)
c) Puma Bantam Knife (doing surgery in field)
d) Light weight Hatchet for firewood and cutting through bone

What navigational aids do you take?

a) compass
b) gps locater

What do you think your odds are of successfully completing this journey?

Very good.

What do you do in the 30 days before you leave?

Take as many pictures of the land as possible, collect date (soil samples, water samples). Document as much about the trip as possible.



I know I do not have any field time, I just wanted to try my luck with it. With that said, have your way with it...pros/cons...
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b) gps locater
Really?

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