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Old 11-21-2005, 11:32   #1
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Belaboring the Obvious - Ralph Peters Trys Again

Don't get me wrong, I like Ralph Peters. He says what we all know to be true and he has the outlets to get it to a respectable sized audience. I just think he's a lone voice crying in the wind. The Demo's answer him with a deafening silence and continue their assault on reason with their usual self absorbed tirade. Anyway I thought everyone here would appreciate knowing somebody is still trying to hold the line. Peregrino




New York Post
November 21, 2005
How To Lose A War

By Ralph Peters

QUIT. It's that simple. There are plenty of more complex ways to lose a war, but none as reliable as just giving up.

Increasingly, quitting looks like the new American Way of War. No matter how great your team, you can't win the game if you walk off the field at half-time. That's precisely what the Democratic Party wants America to do in Iraq. Forget the fact that we've made remarkable progress under daunting conditions: The Dems are looking to throw the game just to embarrass the Bush administration.

Forget about the consequences. Disregard the immediate encouragement to the terrorists and insurgents to keep killing every American soldier they can. Ignore what would happen in Iraq - and the region - if we bail out. And don't mention how a U.S. surrender would turn al Qaeda into an Islamic superpower, the champ who knocked out Uncle Sam in the third round.

Forget about our dead soldiers, whose sacrifice is nothing but a political club for Democrats to wave in front of the media. After all, one way to create the kind of disaffection in the ranks that the Dems' leaders yearn to see is to tell our troops on the battlefield that they're risking their lives for nothing, we're throwing the game.

Forget that our combat veterans are re-enlisting at remarkable rates - knowing they'll have to leave their families and go back to war again. Ignore the progress on the ground, the squeezing of the insurgency's last strongholds into the badlands on the Syrian border. Blow off the successive Iraqi elections and the astonishing cooperation we've seen between age-old enemies as they struggle to form a decent government.

Just set a time-table for our troops to come home and show the world that America is an unreliable ally with no stomach for a fight, no matter the stakes involved. Tell the world that deserting the South Vietnamese and fleeing from Somalia weren't anomalies - that's what Americans do.

While we're at it, let's just print up recruiting posters for the terrorists, informing the youth of the Middle East that Americans are cowards who can be attacked with impunity.

Whatever you do, don't talk about any possible consequences. Focus on the moment - and the next round of U.S. elections. Just make political points. After all, those dead American soldiers and Marines don't matter - they didn't go to Ivy League schools. (Besides, most would've voted Republican had they lived.)

America's security? Hah! As long as the upcoming elections show Democratic gains, let the terrorist threat explode. So what if hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners might die in a regional war? So what if violent fundamentalism gets a shot of steroids? So what if we make Abu Musab al-Zarqawi the most successful Arab of the past 500 years?

For God's sake, don't talk about democracy in the Middle East. After all, democracy wasn't much fun for the Dems in 2000 or 2004. Why support it overseas, when it's been so disappointing at home?

Human rights? Oh, dear. Human rights are for rich white people who live in Malibu. Unless you can use the issue to whack Republicans. Otherwise, brown, black or yellow people can die by the millions. Dean, Reid & Pelosi, LLC, won't say, "Boo!"

You've got to understand, my fellow citizens: None of this matters. And you don't matter, either. All that matters is scoring political points. Let the world burn. Let the massacres run on. Let the terrorists acquire WMD. Just give the Bush administration a big black eye and we'll call that a win.

The irresponsibility of the Democrats on Capitol Hill is breathtaking. (How can an honorable man such as Joe Lieberman stay in that party?) Not one of the critics of our efforts in Iraq - not one - has described his or her vision for Iraq and the Middle East in the wake of a troop withdrawal. Not one has offered any analysis of what the terrorists would gain and what they might do. Not one has shown respect for our war dead by arguing that we must put aside our partisan differences and win.

There's plenty I don't like about the Bush administration. Its domestic policies disgust me, and the Bushies got plenty wrong in Iraq. But at least they'll fight. The Dems are ready to betray our troops, our allies and our country's future security for a few House seats.

Surrender is never a winning strategy.

Yes, we've been told lies about Iraq - by Dems and their media groupies. About conditions on the ground. About our troops. About what's at stake. About the consequences of running away from the great struggle of our time. About the continuing threat from terrorism. And about the consequences for you and your family.

What do the Democrats fear? An American success in Iraq. They need us to fail, and they're going to make us fail, no matter the cost. They need to declare defeat before the 2006 mid-term elections and ensure a real debacle before 2008 - a bloody mess they'll blame on Bush, even though they made it themselves.

We won't even talk about the effect quitting while we're winning in Iraq might have on the go-to-war calculations of other powers that might want to challenge us in the future. Let's just be good Democrats and prove that Osama bin Laden was right all along: Americans have no stomach for a fight.

As for the 2,000-plus dead American troops about whom the lefties are so awfully concerned? As soon as we abandon Iraq, they'll forget about our casualties quicker than an amnesiac forgets how much small-change he had in his pocket.

If we run away from our enemies overseas, our enemies will make their way to us. Quit Iraq, and far more than 2,000 Americans are going to die.

And they won't all be conservatives.

Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer.
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:54   #2
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That rant looks like an improved version of something I might come up with.

No disagreement, on any point.

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Old 11-21-2005, 12:34   #3
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From the latest Federalist Patriot.

The first and the last quote ring particularly true in keeping with the Peters article.

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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. As enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself." —Marcus Tullius Cicero


IChThUS IMPRIMIS

"Commentators have been busily trying to explain the weeks of violence that have turned French cities into war zones. Some say it's a result of high rates of unemployment among youth. Others suggested it is France's fault for failing to assimilate the children of its mostly Islamic immigrants. Now, while true in part, these are only symptoms of a much deeper problem: France's loss of moral and cultural vitality... The real problem with France, like the rest of post-Christian Europe, is a flawed, rigidly secular worldview. France has renounced its Christian heritage... Without a vision, the people perish—which is why France may be doomed to 'eat its young' and, in turn, watch as they bite back." —Chuck Colson


FAMILY

"Data compiled by the Heritage Foundation show that teens from homes headed by single, never-married women are twice as likely to be sexually active than teens from homes headed by married couples. Black children are three times more likely than white children to be living in a single-parent household and are three times more likely to be poor. So despite arguments from Planned Parenthood and other liberal advocates that inserting government between parents and their children protects children, things are quite the opposite. The reality of the black community is testimony that the formula for keeping children poor, and assuring that their children will be poor, is to destroy the integrity of the family. Government subsidization and protection of irresponsible behavior has gotten blacks into the social black hole in which they now find themselves. Black kids are not suffering because they need more rights. They are suffering because they are not learning, from an early age, about responsibilities and consequences." —Star Parker


CULTURE

"Maybe it's not the B.S. that bothers me, but that the B.S. is being practiced so badly. The truth is B.S. has a long, proud history in America. During our early years, the 'tall tale' was practiced broadly. Exaggeration gave more credence and color to stories, and yarn-spinning became a celebrated part of American culture. From our beginning we've had our share of snake-oil salesmen and flimflam artists. These scoundrels weren't judged on the rightness or wrongness of their scams so much as the skill with which they practiced their craft. The sorry truth is that we want to be lied to in America. Whereas the truth can be painful, costly and time consuming, a skillfully told yarn puts us at ease and helps us sleep better at night... But our politicians and the press are doing a horrible job these days spinning their mistruths. I think it is because they are lazy. I remember the good old days when 'news' shows, such as Dateline, went to elaborate lengths to pull one over on us. They didn't rely on a couple of lousy forged documents. They rigged up a truck with explosives, and then blew it up on screen... I don't know who or what to believe anymore, and I sense millions of others feel just as I do." —Tom Purcell
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:36   #4
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Oh how I wish that the lib left could read/here/listen/understand what is truly at stake.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:52   #5
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Quotes that hit home, thanks TR.

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That rant looks like an improved version of something I might come up with.

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I'd disagree only with the word "improved", you've penned some incredible posts here.



ETA: As have others, as well. Don't want to leave anyone out.
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Old 11-21-2005, 15:59   #6
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Oh how I wish that the lib left could read/here/listen/understand what is truly at stake.
The problem is that they just don't care beyond getting elected by any means. If it means demoralizing the soldier, getting more killed by incouraging the insurgency to hold on just a bit longer, or whatever, then they will do it.

That is the same as the hatred for President Bush in the mainstream press. They will be damed if they will report good news in Iraq as that will reflect good on the President.
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Old 11-21-2005, 16:34   #7
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Agreed longrange1947. It's a sad state of affairs to put it mildly how the politicians put their own selfish greed before the welfare of our Country, and our Military. The posturing and grandstanding and hatred of the President (not simple disagreement but pure hatred) from our "leaders" makes me ill.
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Old 11-21-2005, 19:07   #8
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Mr. Peters is a great American and courageous to be swimming against the current in his chosen profession.
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Old 11-21-2005, 20:12   #9
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I like it. Thanks for posting it.
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Old 11-27-2005, 18:20   #10
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I agree. Well written. To the point. Has a point. Thanks.
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