07-05-2005, 12:40
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Field Note book Suggestions?
Can any one suggest what type of field note book is best for SFAS. I noticed in everything I read about the packing list that note books are restricted to 4x6 size.
Im just trying to buy what I need ahead of time.
Im sure someone in the forums here has oppinions on what works best.
Warrior-Mentor states in his book to buy a water proof note book. I havent found anything like that in clothing sales yet. Thanks for any help yall
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07-05-2005, 13:22
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I would take Rite-In-The-Rain
#935 & #935T Shirt Pocket:
3" x 5" spiral bound with Universal pattern. 50 sheets.
GREEN -#935 - NSN# 7530-01-498-2080
TAN - #935T - NSN# 7530-01-505-3705
#C935 - Shirt Cover (Notebook sold Separately)
http://www.riteintherain.com/tact.html
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07-05-2005, 13:45
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NDD: Thanks for the reply. I dont know how often you actually need to take notes at SFAS. Will I need to take notes a lot during classes or am I required to have a field notebook because of the "Army standard" of every squared away soldier always has something to write with and something to write on? Thanks also for the Rite in the Rain link as well.
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07-05-2005, 14:34
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Originally Posted by somedic
NDD: Thanks for the reply. I dont know how often you actually need to take notes at SFAS. Will I need to take notes a lot during classes or am I required to have a field notebook because of the "Army standard" of every squared away soldier always has something to write with and something to write on? Thanks also for the Rite in the Rain link as well.
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There's a reason the Army standard expects every squared away soldier to have something to write with and on at all times. The more tired you get and the more complicated the things you have to remember - the more likely you are to fail to recall key components of your mission/instructions. Take notes as required and use them. Don't forget OPSEC though and always remember to sterilize notes you no longer need. Rite in the Rain is good stuff and available in several formats. The only thing it won't work for is TP - not absorbent at all!  Peregrino
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07-05-2005, 14:41
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
I would take Rite-In-The-Rain
#935 & #935T Shirt Pocket:
3" x 5" spiral bound with Universal pattern. 50 sheets.
GREEN -#935 - NSN# 7530-01-498-2080
TAN - #935T - NSN# 7530-01-505-3705
#C935 - Shirt Cover (Notebook sold Separately)
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this looks more like a packing list suggestion/recommendation...consider the source...i'd be gettin' me some if i were you...
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07-05-2005, 17:13
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
There's a reason the Army standard expects every squared away soldier to have something to write with and on at all times. The more tired you get and the more complicated the things you have to remember - the more likely you are to fail to recall key components of your mission/instructions. Take notes as required and use them. Don't forget OPSEC though and always remember to sterilize notes you no longer need. Rite in the Rain is good stuff and available in several formats. The only thing it won't work for is TP - not absorbent at all!  Peregrino
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Yeah, that. I still panic a little if I don't have a pen and a piece of paper in my pocket.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-05-2005, 18:51
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no kidding...if a guy works for me and i ask him to come into my office, he'd better come through the door with a writing instrument and something to write on...when i go see one of the other manager's, i usually have a pen and pad of paper with me...when i was a commander, it was very bad form to report to me without some way of taking notes...very bad form...
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07-05-2005, 19:36
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I really like the R in the R stuff. I printed my own CQB notebook out of it and I am working on a Sniper Data Book. Very easy to do if you have access to a laser printer.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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07-06-2005, 10:09
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Any good office supply store should have this type of notebook in various sizes, but you might have to special order them. They were a standing order for the construction company I worked for in Washington state. I'm sorry, but I can't remember the brand we used.
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07-06-2005, 11:49
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Originally Posted by somedic
NDD: Thanks for the reply. I dont know how often you actually need to take notes at SFAS. Will I need to take notes a lot during classes or am I required to have a field notebook because of the "Army standard" of every squared away soldier always has something to write with and something to write on? Thanks also for the Rite in the Rain link as well.
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Specifically, you will take notes during lectures/classes unless you're already solidly grounded in Land Nav. I recommend taking notes even if you don't "need" to. You WILL need the paper to write down your route plan. I was never stopped, but had several buddies whose routes took them too close to roads and were stopped by Cadre. They had to be able to prove they had a reason to be there. If you stay off the roads, you'll be G2G. I had the 3x5 size and wish I had had the 4x6 one for drawing the intersections.
If this seems confusing, don't worry about it. The Cadre will explain everything you need to know.
Don't be last, don't be light, don't be late and especially this time of year DON'T be low. Good Luck!
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07-07-2005, 13:28
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Originally Posted by lksteve
...when i was a commander, it was very bad form to report to me without some way of taking notes...very bad form... 
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Noted!
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07-07-2005, 13:35
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Noted! 
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the boss came back to my lair today to discuss some issues with a project...he received a call and needed to make a note...as he was fumbling around, i handed him a notepad (that i had to make notes of his comments) and a pencil...when he was done, i crossed my arms and tapped my foot..."I know, I know..." (he and i chewed on one of our colleagues for showing up at a meeting without pen and paper)..i just commented about his lack of military service (he's an AF Reserve Group Commander)....he said he owed me some push-ups...i said i'd e-mail him when i got tired...
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07-07-2005, 14:57
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Yeah, that. I still panic a little if I don't have a pen and a piece of paper in my pocket.
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I'm glad someone else admitted that before I did. I still use the green Army note pads I got in Supply before I retired. My co-workers make jokes about them but I don't forget things since I wrote them down.
Saved my butt a few times already.
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07-07-2005, 15:01
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My co-workers make jokes about them but I don't forget things since I wrote them down.
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my problem is that i don't always remember where i wrote them down...
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07-08-2005, 13:06
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Originally Posted by lksteve
my problem is that i don't always remember where i wrote them down... 
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Holy **** LOL!!
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