Peanut boy needs to shut up

**Roguish Lawyer** · 06-08-2005, 16:56

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/....ap/index.html

Carter: Close down Guantanamo Bay
Wednesday, June 8, 2005 Posted: 11:34 AM EDT (1534 GMT)

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has called for his country to shut down the Guantanamo Bay prison to demonstrate its commitment to human rights.

"The U.S. continues to suffer terrible embarrassment and a blow to our reputation ... because of reports concerning abuses of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo," Carter said after a two-day human rights conference at his Atlanta center.

Such reports have surfaced despite President George W. Bush's "bold reminder that America is determined to promote freedom and democracy around the world," Carter said.

About 540 detainees are being held at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Some have been there more than three years without being charged with a crime. Most were captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002 and were sent to Guantanamo Bay in hope of extracting useful intelligence about the al Qaeda terrorist network.

Carter said on Tuesday the United States needs to make sure no detainees are held incommunicado and that all are told the charges against them.

Despite his criticism of Guantanamo Bay, Carter said Amnesty International should not have called the prison "the gulag of our time" in a report last month. President Bush has termed the report by the human-rights group "absurd."

Carter said the alleged abuses at Guantanamo Bay could never compare with the forced labor camps operated by the former Soviet Union.

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 06-08-2005, 19:08

I think this idiot needs to offer sufficient habitat for humanity housing for all these folks right there in downtown Plains, GA.

Jack Moroney

**Ambush Master** · 06-08-2005, 19:12

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I think this idiot needs to offer sufficient habitat for humanity housing for all these folks right there in downtown Plains, GA.

Jack Moroney

Sir, I was thinking that EXACT same thing !! Even better, put them up at his place till he can hammer them up a new house !!!

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 06-08-2005, 19:22

Yep. He can build them a mosque, give them heartfelt talks over non-alcoholic Billy Beer about how he really is in tune with the moslem world which is why he really screwed the pooch on the Iranin Hostages, provide lectures on successful international negotiations with foresight and vision using his Panama Canal venture as the case study, and do the world a favor by making his lovely bride wear a burqua. The possibilities are endless.

Jack Moroney

**Ambush Master** · 06-08-2005, 19:26

Sir, I think that we are on a Roll !!!

Where is NDD when ya need him ?!?!?!

lksteve · 06-08-2005, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Carter said the alleged abuses at Guantanamo Bay could never compare with the forced labor camps operated by the former Soviet Union.

i believe this sentence should have been prefaced as follows: "In a rare moment of lucidity,..."

**Peregrino** · 06-08-2005, 19:38

Just helps to remind us of why he was a consummate failure as a President. Carter should stick with things he can positively influence that contribute to the ideals of this country - things like pounding nails for HFH - and leave statesmanship and waging war to those with the stomach for it. Makes me want to actively pursue the rehabilitation of "Tricky Dicky" Nixon. Nobody ever accused him of being blinded by his personal morality, nor of trying to handicap the rest of the nation with it. Personal reality - that's another story - but morality never got in his way. When it comes to running the country, there's a lot to be said for pragmatists. Just my .02 - Peregrino

CRad · 06-08-2005, 19:58

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Nobody ever accused him of being blinded by his personal morality, nor of trying to handicap the rest of the nation with it. Personal reality - that's another story - but morality never got in his way. When it comes to running the country, there's a lot to be said for pragmatists. Just my .02 - Peregrino

And that's a good thing. What a person feels morally responsible for or about isn't always good for the country. Somehow I can't see the bad guys sitting around wondering if their actions are going to be considered morally reprehensible. The notion that what we do isn't as bad as what they are doing so it's okay for us to cross a certain line gets a no-go as well. Of course that goes without saying.

Jimmy Carter was a lousy President. He doesn't seem to get the idea this isn't a Sunday School class.

CoLawman · 06-09-2005, 07:32

Every time he opens his mouth I am transported back to those years of his presidency:

Double Digit Inflation and Double Digit Interest on Home Loans!

Iran Hostage situation!

Impure thoughts!

Billy Beer!

Oh those were the days!

He already cinched his place in history as the worst US President. Now he is trying to assure his place in history as the worst former US President.

jasonglh · 06-09-2005, 10:14

I still have a 6 pack of Billy Beer anxiously awaiting a certain State funeral.

I certainly agree with others here that President Carter should spend more time working on internal problems like housing in this country which seems to be the only thing he is good at. Had a relative asking for donations to go to Africa to do missionary work. My response was pretty much "Ever been to Mississippi? Greyhounds alot cheaper than TWA.".

**Roguish Lawyer** · 06-09-2005, 10:33

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I certainly agree with others here that President Carter should spend more time working on internal problems like housing in this country which seems to be the only thing he is good at.

Perhaps as a volunteer, not as POTUS.

jasonglh · 06-09-2005, 10:47

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Perhaps as a volunteer, not as POTUS.

Well I was thinking more along the lines of leading Habitat for Humanity or actually wielding a hammer not another run at dicking up the country.

When referring to him is it not still President Carter even though he is not in office?

**Roguish Lawyer** · 06-09-2005, 10:53

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When referring to him is it not still President Carter even though he is not in office?

I suppose, but I like "Peanut Boy" or just "that dumbfuck."

Bravo1-3 · 06-09-2005, 10:55

He needs to figure out that he's not the President anymore. A guy who carried a whopping 49 electoral votes in his re-election bid, against 489 by his challenger... and he's saying what now? (sorry, I wasn't listening)

**Peregrino** · 06-09-2005, 11:45

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Had a relative asking for donations to go to Africa to do missionary work. My response was pretty much "Ever been to Mississippi? Greyhound's a lot cheaper than TWA.".

Succinctly put! I wish more "missionaries" would look to fixing our own house first. Obviously the mentioned relative didn't take the hint. Probably not glamorous enough. At least Carter does lend his time/image to HFH. I did some volunteer work with them here in Fayetteville and have to admit I like the program and enjoyed the accomplishment. Not to mention that their rules REQUIRE the homeowner to actively participate and "pay/pay forward" the incurred debt/obligation. From personal experience when I was a very young SF soldier - you can't save the whole world so it's better to spend your resources on those willing to help themselves. Because of that attitude/reality HFH seems to have a better success rate than any other "charity" I've seen. And despite Carter's participation they aren't forced to charge double digit interest rates. Peregrino