07-22-2016, 10:45
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Army accepts first two females for SFAS??
Comedy Zone or Here??
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Here comes G.I. Jane: Army accepts first women to attend school to become Green Berets, By Alex Quade - Special to The Washington Times - The Washington Times
Friday, July 22, 2016
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. | Two female Army officers will make history when they report to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, in their first step toward earning the Special Forces tab and becoming Green Berets.
The female officers, whom Army officials declined to identify, could attend their first Special Forces Assessment and Selection (SFAS) class as early as October, though neither has yet received orders for training at Fort Bragg, The Washington Times has learned.
Col. Nestor A. Sadler, commandant of the Special Forces Regiment at the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center School at Fort Bragg, confirmed that the two female candidates had accepted invitations for the SFAS class.
“Two females met the requirements for SFAS and were nominated by the ARSOF [Army Special Operations Forces selection] panel to attend SFAS. One candidate declined her invitation and withdrew from the process. Special Forces Branch asked why. On the last day to accept or decline the invitation, she changed her mind and accepted the invitation to attend SFAS,” Col. Sadler said.
At a recent Special Forces Association conference in Jacksonville, Col. Sadler said that the Army selection panel had reviewed the application packets of seven female officers. Of those, two were approved for the SFAS class, he said.
Officers may apply for special forces positions once a year. The Army selection panel in April reviewed application packets from 860 officers for the three Special Operations Regiments, which include Special Forces, Civil Affairs and PSYOP.
Maj. Melody Faulkenberry, spokeswoman for the Special Warfare Center and School, said that 71 women applied for the various Special Operations Regiments forces positions and 65 were selected for consideration.
“This was the first time females had the ability to choose Special Forces, and nine female officers marked Special Forces as their first choice in their packets,” Maj. Faulkenberry said.
Defense Secretary Ashton Carter opened all combat occupations to women in December, ending a ban on women in direct ground combat roles.
The female officers must pass the SFAS and the subsequent Special Forces Qualification Course before earning the coveted green beret.
Both female officers are on active duty and have served in combat support roles. Neither attended the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York. One received her commission via ROTC, the other via Officer Candidate School.
Citing the Privacy Act, Army officials declined Freedom of Information Act requests for the officers’ service background information such as their military occupation specialties, awards and deployment history.
“An important thing to remember is, these are volunteers. Special Forces is something soldiers volunteer for,” Maj. Faulkenberry said.
The two female officers are “triple volunteers,” having volunteered for the Army, airborne training and now Special Forces, she said.
Copyright © 2016 The Washington Times, LLC.
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Col Sadler appears to be the real deal..
http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/AIWFC/Re...LSadlerBio.pdf
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07-22-2016, 11:32
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COL Sadler has 2 CIBs? I didn't think OIF and OEF could qualify you for 2? Panama and GWOT, maybe?
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07-22-2016, 12:33
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If I were a female I'd just ask to "audit" the Special Forces Qualification Course and when it was over and I didn't receive a "Green Beret" I'd threaten the Special Warfare Commander with a sexual harassment lawsuit, (with a lawyer in tow......)
That's just me, that's how I'd get a green beret.
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07-22-2016, 12:42
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Originally Posted by x SF med
COL Sadler has 2 CIBs? I didn't think OIF and OEF could qualify you for 2? Panama and GWOT, maybe?
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Viet Nam era = Viet Nam, Grenada, Panama and Desert Storm
GWOT era = OIF/OEF
so 1 for Desert Storm, 1 for OIF/OEF
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07-22-2016, 12:43
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COL Sadler has 2 CIBs? I didn't think OIF and OEF could qualify you for 2? Panama and GWOT, maybe?
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Still quite a few Desert Storm vets out there....
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07-22-2016, 13:07
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If I were a female I'd just ask to "audit" the Special Forces Qualification Course and when it was over and I didn't receive a "Green Beret" I'd threaten the Special Warfare Commander with a sexual harassment lawsuit, (with a lawyer in tow......)
That's just me, that's how I'd get a green beret.
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That's just way too hard. I would go to Clothing Sales and buy, uh, award myself one and when called out file a sexual discrimination, harassment, hostile work environment, and bullying lawsuit...
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07-22-2016, 13:31
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Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce
Viet Nam era = Viet Nam, Grenada, Panama and Desert Storm
GWOT era = OIF/OEF
so 1 for Desert Storm, 1 for OIF/OEF
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1-508 IN didn't participate in DS/DS; they did, however, fight in Op Just Cause, and COL Sadler was commissioned a year and a half prior to the invasion. So...
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07-22-2016, 14:11
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Accepted invitations? I don't recall being invited. I had to kick down the door. But I went to the last easy class so what do I know?
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07-22-2016, 14:15
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That's one reason I suggested Comedy Zone.. 
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07-22-2016, 16:41
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Go ahead and print their certificates and assign them Q Course dates. 
Oz has spoken.
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07-22-2016, 18:08
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
If I were a female I'd just ask to "audit" the Special Forces Qualification Course and when it was over and I didn't receive a "Green Beret" I'd threaten the Special Warfare Commander with a sexual harassment lawsuit, (with a lawyer in tow......)
That's just me, that's how I'd get a green beret.
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Nope, I'd go to MISO Selection, followed by SOFCCC, then audit the 18A Phase (skip IUW, SUT, SERE and SAGE) then demand a top hat claiming to have done it all, just under different SOF elements...
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07-23-2016, 03:32
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Nestor was my company commander right before I retired. No complaints at that time.
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07-23-2016, 06:05
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Well, he's the SF Commandant for the Regiment up on the 4th floor. All I can say is he's a good person to talk to. As a training developer for the 18E's, he seems to be interested with what goes on in the Q course "pipeline"... As far as what else a Commandant does...well, hell, I dunno.
However, I see him as a good guy.
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07-23-2016, 09:45
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Originally Posted by glebo
Well, he's the SF Commandant for the Regiment up on the 4th floor. All I can say is he's a good person to talk to. As a training developer for the 18E's, he seems to be interested with what goes on in the Q course "pipeline"... As far as what else a Commandant does...well, hell, I dunno.
However, I see him as a good guy.
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Concur.
He was one of my detachment commanders.
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07-27-2016, 07:43
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I hope some nice flowers were delivered with the invitations.
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