When do we declare America is finished?

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 14:42

When do we declare America is finished?

When sharia law is enacted in all 50 states?

When the southern border is dissolved and passports are no longer needed?

When the administration grants amnesty to 15-20 millions illegal's?

When all guns and ammo are banned?

When the government controls the news?

When laws voted on by the people are no longer enforced by the government?

When the government controls the internet?

When the rule of law is no longer the standard?

When convicted felons & drug addicts consult the White House?

When we become partners with islamic terrorists?

When Iran drops a dirty bomb in Europe or America?

When your own government is spying on American citizens in America?

When federal, state and local police are secretly listening/collecting your private phone calls?

When we no longer abide by the Constitution of the United States?

When the government forces you to purchase items you may not need or require?

When the government knowingly employs federal agencies to subvert it's opponents?

When the government is collecting data on every American and doing so in the name of Security?

When government employees rake in millions in "donations" from other countries?

Or is it when we no longer give a shit and find it's easier to do nothing and just to look the other way.

Oldrotorhead · 03-05-2015, 15:27

The final nail will be driven when the last welfare check goes out and the natives go nuts. Oh wait maybe that will be the beginning of a new Republic.............in some States.

bubba · 03-05-2015, 15:45

"It's to late to work within the system, and to early to start shooting the bastards." I'm not sure where I first heard that but it seems to be getting closer than further away. I'm investing in precious metals, you know, silver / gold / lead / copper / brass......

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 15:52

Check with the census. In the next 100 years whites will be the minority in the USA. We will become "North Venezuela".

It's inevitable and as certain as the sun rising in the east. The Squatter in the White House is just speeding up the process by granting amnesty to 15-20 million illegals.

By my timetable the most powerful Free nation on the planet is less than 100 years away from a name change.

Certain as death and taxes.

Some of your grandchildren will not be happy.

G Wheeler II · 03-05-2015, 15:54

[QUOTE=Team Sergeant;577211]When do we declare America is finished?

TMSGT It will only be finished when there is no one left willing to defend it..

Over 30 years ago I swore and Oath and I never heard or set a time limit on my word to god........ When it is required and will mean something a hell of a big bunch of us will still answer the call for stand too and hold the line and strike back..

Maybe I am a bit simple or just foolish, but I still hope....

**Pete** · 03-05-2015, 16:24

Hey, as long as the Fed has ink and paper we're GTG.

The masses can eat cake until the final days.

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Maybe, maybe not. There really is no way to accurately predict 100 years out how the population will change. Conservatives need to explain their principles and policies better to the Hispanic and Latino population so that they are more open to conservatism. They are not closed to conservatism the way the black population is. If the GOP is smart, it will be able to retain enough of the vote to keep the country center-right.

Also just an FYI Sir, but the way you wrote your post could strike one as racist. I am not saying you are, don't misunderstand what I am saying, but just saying about whites becoming the minority and the country becoming "Northern Venezuela" could mislead a potential new PSer who doesn't know the context (majority Hispanic population = country probably becomes very leftwing).

That's the difference between me and most folks, I could give a rats ass what anyone thinks of me, except my close friends and family.

My point is that according to the census both blacks and whites will be a minority very soon. Minority to illegal's that will soon take over. Racist, nope, the folks that came here after filling out the required paperwork I consider as American as myself and I would fight and die for them.

I do consider the tens of millions of illegal's nothing more than bottom feeding parasites, criminals that the current administration is giving a free pass to.....

I'm glad to see you've undergone the required sensitivity training, you will do well in the coming years.

mark46th · 03-05-2015, 18:34

New York City just decided that its public schools will observe 2 Islamic holidays...

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Maybe, maybe not. There really is no way to accurately predict 100 years out how the population will change.

They do it just like calculating the path of hurricanes, by looking at the past records. I'm sure it's quite accurate. And I'm betting if I dug a bit we have predicted our current population levels decades ago.

Now with the current surge of illegals, then yes the numbers might be off a bit, in their favor.

Stiletto11 · 03-05-2015, 18:37

AZTLAN, The Reconquista signore. "The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Theodore Roosevelt

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 18:37

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Originally Posted by mark46th

New York City just decided that its public schools will observe 2 Islamic holidays...

Want to bet that it will be one of the New England states will be the first to cancel Thanksgiving because it offends someone.

**Team Sergeant** · 03-05-2015, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Stiletto11

AZTLAN, The Reconquista signore. "The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Theodore Roosevelt

Yup I agree with that, Black, White, Asian, Latino, Indian, Eskimo, etc etc etc. (I was however contemplating filling out every form that you have to declare race with "Norwegian American")

Stiletto11 · 03-05-2015, 18:42

I would bet on Massachusetts. Commiecticut a close second.

WarriorDiplomat · 03-05-2015, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

It isn't a matter of caring about what others think of that opinion because one wants to be in their good graces so much as making sure people understand why you're making that argument. If people interpret it as racist, then they might ignore what are otherwise sound points.

Your point is known as the tyranny of PC

I do think though the illegal situation is more complicated though. Many illegals are here just to get away from the awfulness in Mexico and you have the teenagers and young adults who are technically illegal, having come here as a young child, who are essentially American thus in everything but citizenship.

We are a country of law which is not complicated it is simple gain citizenship through legal means period.

WarriorDiplomat · 03-05-2015, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

I forget where I had read it, but it was an article on how this issue is more complicated than many think. It would be interesting to look at past records though regarding predictions of current ethnic populations in the U.S.

It is not only predictable it is an issue that most reasonable people get, we don't need mathematicians/game theorist giving us the % of probability given current trends and past records. If we open borders illegals will move in as they do now even with rule of law only far worse and they would use our resources until they are gone and move on to the next country. Think of locusts destroying a crop. Understanding social dynamics, law, resource management, central banking, tax implications, national protection, global economics, etc.....helps in understanding why it just can't happen without dire consequences. Ethnicity doesn't matter people that we accept into our country must share some common values and be value added productive citizens not leaches.