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Old 03-19-2015, 13:38   #1
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Student group demands California university rename bldg after convicted cop killer

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/19...cmp=latestnews


A black student organization at the University of California at Berkeley is demanding the university rename a building on campus after Assata Shakur, a former Black Panther, convicted cop killer and the first woman named to the FBI's Most-Wanted Terrorist List.

A jury convicted Shakur of killing a New Jersey State Trooper in 1979. She escaped prison and fled to Cuba. The FBI calls her a domestic terrorist. In 2013, the agency added her to the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist List, alongside several members of Al Qaeda, airline hijackers and bombers.

But to the Black Student Union at Berkeley, Shakur is an "icon of resistance within oppressed communities (who) represents black resilience in the face of state-sanctioned violence." They demanded the university rename Barrows Hall, named after former Chancellor David Barrows, "Shakur Hall." In 2013, Shakur declared her innocence and called her trial in 1979 a legal lynching by an all-white jury. Shakur, formerly known as Joann Chesimard, belonged to the Black Liberation Army at the time of the shooting.

"We want the renaming for someone -- Assata Shakur -- who we feel like represents us as black students," said Black Student Union spokesman Cori McGowens. "Black students on campus have a feeling of isolation, marginalization. We're at a crisis on campus."

The renaming of Barrows Hall is just one of 10 demands the Black Student Union delivered to Berkeley Chancellor Nick Dirks last month.

They're also demanding a meeting place solely for black students, $300,371 for two black admissions staff focused on black recruiting, $113,932 for another staffer to handle black retention, two black psychologists who understand the "racially hostile campus," two black advisers to mentor black athletes and a fully-funded 'Get into Graduate School' mentoring program.

"I came to Berkeley and I thought that it was a progressive liberal environment, but the N-word was written on the dorm wall and my white professors were openly using the N-word," said senior Blake Simons. "So that's part of my experience here is feeling marginalized."

University officials met with the groups last week. While not agreeing to honor Shakur, Chancellor Dirks did apologize, saying, "Too many (black) students have told us about being excluded from study groups, ignored during class discussions, verbally harassed at parties and social events, and feeling, in a general sense, vulnerable, isolated and invisible. This is something we deplore."

African-American students at Berkeley already have 33 campus organizations dedicated to their well-being, from fraternities and sororities, to a African Theme Program, an African American Studies Department, an African Arts Society, a Black Campus Ministries, Finance Guild and Pre-Law Society.

But that isn't the point, say students.

"We definitely need more resources for underrepresented minorities on campus," says senior Amanda Burke. "I know personally people who suffer micro-aggressions on a daily basis at Cal and it's something that's kind of gone ignored by a lot of people."

Some black students cite a mock lynching last year at one fraternity. However, a police investigation later revealed the hanging effigy on Halloween was meant to be a zombie, not an African-American.

Still, McGowens said it was difficult to succeed academically because of the anti-black atmosphere.

"There are a lot of black students that apply --get into Cal -- who don't want to come for that reason," he said. "Because the environment isn't welcoming. It isn't safe for black students. So we feel like as black students we are the most marginalized on campus."

After Chancellor Dirks "defaulted" on the group's March 6 deadline, the Black Student Union said it would "persevere" until they get what they "deserve."

Of UC Berkeley's 36,000 enrolled students, roughly 3 percent are black, 40 percent are Asian, 30 percent are white and 13 percent are Hispanic. By comparison, the statewide population is 7 percent black, 14 percent Asian, 37 percent Hispanic and 42 percent white.
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Old 03-19-2015, 13:52   #2
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It's probably a good thing that CA is running out of water because there's something in it that has made them crazy.

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I bet they fly the Black Panther flag there. Guess the American flag just shows the oppression they have to be subjected to.
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Old 03-19-2015, 14:02   #4
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...how about a compromise

They can name it after Tupac; it can still be Shakur Hall but it wont be named after a terrorist.


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They want a meeting room for only black people as well. If a white guy had recommended that he would have been labelled a racist.
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Old 03-19-2015, 14:43   #6
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Welcome to the United States of the Offended.

If a professor used the n-word, particularly in front of a black student, he would out of there so fast he would not know what hit him.

I wonder if the complaining students use the word themselves and listen to music containing the word many times each day. Perhaps that is where they heard it at Cal?

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I think this article from the SF Chronicle gives a much better perspective of what's occurring with this on-going issue at UC Berkeley than what the Fox News piece offers.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...to-6139786.php

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Sounds to me like they want to resegregate the university, and then ban whites as underclass citizens.

Maybe they should rename it "George C. Wallace Hall."

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I think this article from the SF Chronicle gives a much better perspective of what's occurring with this on-going issue at UC Berkeley than what the Fox News piece offers.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...to-6139786.php

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BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front): It's a bunch of crap!

I disagree. It may attempt a different perspective, but that does not make it better. While I do not support the despicable activities of a few who have contributed to an atmosphere that in at least some respects may be viewed as challenging, and at worst a blatant attempt to harass a particular segment of our society -- it does not, in any sense of the word, support the elevation of a murderess and terrorist to an icon deserving of support and/or admiration -- which is what naming an educational edifice after her would do.

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Old 03-19-2015, 16:44   #10
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Holy Crap

I have a good friend, ex-MACV-SOG, the baddest Mo Fo I've ever known. He got his engineering doctorate from UC Berkley in the late 70s and I never let him forget it.

I can't wait to show him this, oh goodie goodie...
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Old 03-19-2015, 17:55   #11
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Don't like it either but nothing coming from UC Berkley suprises me - nothing.

Heard that Huey Newton is going to have a library in Oakland named after him.
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Old 03-19-2015, 18:00   #13
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Berkeley, where stupid flourishes

Berkeley, where stupid flourishes...........

I'm sure they are some at Berkeley that would loves to name other buildings after Stalin, Hitler, Mao etc....
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Blacks don't feel respected. Women don't feel respected. Gays don't feel respected. Conservative whites don't feel respected. Liberal whites don't feel respected. Latinos don't feel respected.

This culture of "least common denominator of butt-hurt" is starting to tire me out.
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Are there no historically or predominantly black universities in California to feel safe at?
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