10-11-2010, 12:22
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The 99
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/t...lJugmRPFJepL/0
http://www.the99.org/
Bob B. put the NYP link onto FB this morning. I hadn't heard of this cartoon, or that it was being placed on "The Hub" , formerly Discovery Kids. It piqued my curiosity, so I checked it out. I looked all through the web site, even downloaded and read the introductory comic. I read all of the character back stories that were listed.
It leaves me with mixed feelings, I must say. The top level story line seems to be one of basic good vs. evil. I still felt there was a much deeper story line. Not being as familiar with the Muslim faith as many of you are, I wasn't able to decipher a lot of it completely. I did get the impression that there were some hidden meanings in some of the art work, however. The patterns did not seem random to me.
I can see where this cartoon will be attractive to kids. The comic is drawn in a slick, graphic novel style. The cartoon itself is in the CGI format that many kids have grown accustomed to these days. The "heroes" are kids of the same age as the intended audience and their backstories are similar to many of the kids who will be watching it.
I would be interested in seeing the reactions of those who are much more familiar with Islam than me. I may have to watch an episode or two myself before I decide if I allow my granddaughter to watch it in my house.
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10-11-2010, 13:38
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The SEARCH function would have taken you to this:
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ight=Al-Mutawa
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10-11-2010, 16:07
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What I find interesting is.......
What I find interesting is it is scheduled to be on the Hub - sometime in the future.
This show will have a religious base.
Which programs on Discovery Kids/The Hub have a Christian or Jewish group of kids out battling for their religion?
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10-11-2010, 16:47
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I wonder if the President would give a shout out to a new show promoting Christian tolerance and values?
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10-11-2010, 17:58
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Lots of Judeo-Christian religiously themed stories being shown on the MSM/cable/satellite. Anybody ever watch "The Robe", "The Ten Commandments", "The Prince of Egypt", "Luther", "The Chronicles of Narnia", "Ben Hur", "Chariots of Fire", "Facing the Giants", "The Mission", "It's A Wonderful Life", "Gods and Generals", "The Apostle", "We Were Soldiers", "Amistad", "The Hiding Place", "The Lord of the Rings", "The Greatest Story Ever Told", "Fireproof", "Superman", usw.
And then there's the radio. Anybody ever listen to Johnny Cash, Johnny Cash, Charlie Daniels, Hank Williams, George Jones, Crystal Gayle, Merle Haggard, Alan Jackson, George Jones, Randy Travis, Statler Brothers, Dolly Parton, Brenda Lee, Willie Nelson, Barbara Mandrell, Mel Tillis, Loretta Lynn, Carrie Underwood, Brad Paisley, Martina McBride, George Strait, Norman Greenbaum, U2, usw.
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10-11-2010, 19:14
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As for Christian-themed mainstream cartoons aimed at children, I can only think of "Davey and Goliath".
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10-11-2010, 19:25
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As for Christian-themed mainstream cartoons aimed at children, I can only thing of "Davey and Goliath".
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"Veggie Tales" are close... not that I watch them, and would know anything about them... 
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10-11-2010, 19:39
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"Veggie Tales" are close... not that I watch them, and would know anything about them... |
Are they on broadcast TV? I haven't watched (seen) cartoons since I directed the Uncle Bob Show in Tucson roughly 37 years ago.  Well, OK, I did watch The Tick with my son when he was 7 or 8. 
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10-12-2010, 04:46
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I knew you would chime in........
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Lots of Judeo-Christian religiously themed stories being shown on the MSM/cable/satellite. ..............
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I knew you would chime in, Richard, with something I didn't ask.
Now how about listing the Christian / Jewish themed shows aimed at kids that are shown on mainstream or cable channels. Not counting the Christian Channels.
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10-12-2010, 07:11
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I knew you would chime in, Richard, with something I didn't ask.
Now how about listing the Christian / Jewish themed shows aimed at kids that are shown on mainstream or cable channels. Not counting the Christian Channels.
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Good vs evil - ever watch a Superman cartoon and look at the background of the creators and the themes they used to develop its characters?
Davey and Goliath were popular on TV when I was younger and we had 3 channels from which to choose. They still show up amongst some of the periodic nostalgia offerings on TV.
How many kids have watched All Dogs Go To Heaven or The Prince of Egypt usw?
How about The Simpsons? http://www.snpp.com/guides/religion.html
Ever read BC in the Sunday funnies or watch the annual rebroadcasting of A Charlie Brown Christmas?
And so forth.
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10-12-2010, 07:18
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So in other words - you can't.
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Good vs evil - ever watch a Superman cartoon and look at the background of the creators and the themes they used to develop its characters?........
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So in other words - you can't. Nice try at blowing smoke.
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10-12-2010, 07:42
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I see.
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10-12-2010, 08:30
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Still waiting
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Still waiting for you to post a list of kids shows staring kids like Johnny Jew or Peggy Presbyterian - maybe Nancy the Nun.
Shows on the same channel planning to show the program in question?
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10-12-2010, 11:37
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I did perform a search, I guess I used the wrong words. OTOH, the referenced thread and this one have been illuminating.
As for cartoons or movies with a Christian theme, we are a predominately Christian nation, whether one wishes to admit it or not (current POTUS). Cartoons and movies with Christian values were plentiful from the advent of film through the early 80's. There have been fewer in recent years I believe. Those that have been made are often panned by the critics and marginalized. The only one I can think of that is overtly religious and received good reviews with a large audience was "Touched by an Angel". I might include "Supernatural" in that but the story line is completely different.
Richard, some of those you included in your list I would argue with. I don't think just a "good vs. evil" theme would qualify as a religious connotation. I think it needs a definite theme. "The Matrix" is a good example.
What disturbs me is the current trend to acceptance of protesting anytime Christian values or God are mentioned, while supporting Islamic values and Allah. I just saw a story about Kalifornia parents being upset about their kids having to say the Pledge of Allegiance and "One Nation under God" in school. IMO, these are contributing factors to the decline of our society.
As for "The 99", I think I may have to watch an episode or two and see what it seems to promote.
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10-12-2010, 12:09
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As for cartoons or movies with a Christian theme, we are a predominately Christian nation, whether one wishes to admit it or not (current POTUS). Cartoons and movies with Christian values were plentiful from the advent of film through the early 80's. There have been fewer in recent years I believe. Those that have been made are often panned by the critics and marginalized. The only one I can think of that is overtly religious and received good reviews with a large audience was "Touched by an Angel". I might include "Supernatural" in that but the story line is completely different.
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FWIW, I agree. American civilization is infused with Christian values. So even avowedly secular programming is going to reenforce those values. YMMV.
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