12-18-2013, 13:55
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Quiet Professional
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I've purchased my last Multivitamins
When a gaggle of MD's and PhD's say it's bullshit then it's bullshit. I love the guy that sells "Airborne" immune booster that was developed by a "teacher" and has zero science behind it, was sued because of false advertising and continues to make millions off of stupid people.
Airborne has just what your immune system needs to stay healthy or get back on track and comes in many delicious flavors and forms.
Multivitamins is now on the chopping block........ see link below......
Enough Is Enough: Stop Wasting Money on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements
Eliseo Guallar, MD, DrPH; Saverio Stranges, MD, PhD; Cynthia Mulrow, MD, MSc, Senior Deputy Editor; Lawrence J. Appel, MD, MPH; and Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD
http://annals.org/article.aspx?artic...&resultClick=3
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12-18-2013, 16:39
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RIP Quiet Professional
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Wait a couple years, then it'll be "if you don't take a vitamin, you'll die."
Two more years, then "never take a vitamin."
Just like coffee, salt, red wine, beer, red meat, blah.
The only "expert" I believe is the one who owns my EMB and EIB.
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12-18-2013, 16:56
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I've got AMD developing in my left eye and both my OD, and MD recommended I-Caps which is a multivitamin. (Me in a few years ==>  . Well, the other eye.)
Pat
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12-18-2013, 17:10
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I just checked you can't live on beer alone by hey it's a start.
With varieties including dark, thick porters and stouts, light, yellowish lagers and the numerous colors and flavors of fruit beers, there is a beer to suit almost anyone's tastes. In addition, beer is lower in alcohol and more nutrient-dense than most alcoholic beverages. However, beer is neither a healthy nor realistic option for meeting your daily needs for protein or vitamins.
Protein
In its 2010 "Dietary Guidelines for Americans," the U.S. Department of Agriculture recommends that 10 to 35 percent of your daily calories come from protein. On a 2,000-calorie diet, this amounts to 200 to 700 calories from protein each day. As there are 4 calories in 1 gram of protein, you need to eat between 50 and 175 grams of protein to meet your daily needs. Beer contains approximately 1.6 grams of protein in one can. This would require that you drink more than 30 cans per day to obtain a minimum amount of protein.
B Vitamins
All beers contain large amounts of B vitamins, with particularly high concentrations of vitamins B-3, B-6 and B-9. This comes from the yeast content of beer, with unfiltered beers containing higher concentrations of B complex vitamins. For example, one can of beer contains 12.6 percent of your daily vitamin B-6. As such, you can theoretically obtain all of your daily intake from eight cans of beer. However, as alcohol inhibits the absorption of numerous B vitamins, only non-alcoholic beers are good sources of these important nutrients.
Other Micronutrients
Aside from the B-complex vitamins, beer does not contain significant amounts of any other vitamins. In addition, beer is not a particularly good source of most minerals. However, it contains sizable amounts of phosphorus and magnesium. For example, one can contains more than 7 percent of your daily phosphorus needs. As such, you can obtain all of your daily phosphorus by drinking slightly more than 14 cans of beer per day. However, as beer contains more phosphorus than any other mineral, you would need to drink many more cans each day to obtain significant amounts of other essential minerals.
Other Considerations
Excess consumption of alcohol is dangerous to your health, and also to your waistline. There are 4 calories in 1 gram of carbohydrates and 7 calories in 1 gram of alcohol. Of the 153 calories in one can of beer, nearly 100 come from alcohol. As you would need to drink at least eight cans of beer to meet your daily needs for protein or any micronutrient, this would result in approximately 800 calories per day coming from alcohol. In addition, the recommended daily consumption of alcohol is no more than one drink for women and one to two drinks for men.
With varieties including dark, thick porters and stouts, light, yellowish lagers and the numerous colors and flavors of fruit beers, there is a beer to suit almost anyone's tastes. In addition, beer is lower in alcohol and more nutrient-dense than most alcoholic beverages. However, beer is neither a healthy nor realistic option for meeting your daily needs for protein or vitamins.
Protein
In its 2010 "Dietary Guidelines for Americans," the U.S. Department of Agriculture recommends that 10 to 35 percent of your daily calories come from protein. On a 2,000-calorie diet, this amounts to 200 to 700 calories from protein each day. As there are 4 calories in 1 gram of protein, you need to eat between 50 and 175 grams of protein to meet your daily needs. Beer contains approximately 1.6 grams of protein in one can. This would require that you drink more than 30 cans per day to obtain a minimum amount of protein.
B Vitamins
All beers contain large amounts of B vitamins, with particularly high concentrations of vitamins B-3, B-6 and B-9. This comes from the yeast content of beer, with unfiltered beers containing higher concentrations of B complex vitamins. For example, one can of beer contains 12.6 percent of your daily vitamin B-6. As such, you can theoretically obtain all of your daily intake from eight cans of beer. However, as alcohol inhibits the absorption of numerous B vitamins, only non-alcoholic beers are good sources of these important nutrients.
Other Micronutrients
Aside from the B-complex vitamins, beer does not contain significant amounts of any other vitamins. In addition, beer is not a particularly good source of most minerals. However, it contains sizable amounts of phosphorus and magnesium. For example, one can contains more than 7 percent of your daily phosphorus needs. As such, you can obtain all of your daily phosphorus by drinking slightly more than 14 cans of beer per day. However, as beer contains more phosphorus than any other mineral, you would need to drink many more cans each day to obtain significant amounts of other essential minerals.
Other Considerations
Excess consumption of alcohol is dangerous to your health, and also to your waistline. There are 4 calories in 1 gram of carbohydrates and 7 calories in 1 gram of alcohol. Of the 153 calories in one can of beer, nearly 100 come from alcohol. As you would need to drink at least eight cans of beer to meet your daily needs for protein or any micronutrient, this would result in approximately 800 calories per day coming from alcohol. In addition, the recommended daily consumption of alcohol is no more than one drink for women and one to two drinks for men.
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12-18-2013, 17:35
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Agree TS.
Funniest thing, recently since I am about to turn a certain age, I discovered Vitamin B! And those who know me know I will not go to the doc, and I wont even take an aspirin unless I am just feverish, but when I started with the B, seriously, the problem I was experiencing went away!
Multivitamins? Who even knows whats in there? Yikes!
Just try some Pennslyvania Dutch Eggnog! That cures a lot of ills!
Holly
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12-18-2013, 18:20
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Just eat your vegetables. You will be fine.
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12-18-2013, 18:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark46th
Just eat your vegetables. You will be fine.
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There's an even easier way, but you need a secret decoder ring ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU
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12-18-2013, 18:41
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Originally Posted by echoes
Agree TS.
Funniest thing, recently since I am about to turn a certain age,
Holly
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12-18-2013, 19:02
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A friend of mine was once reciting the litany of vitamins that he was taking, after he finished naming them all I asked him if he would be kind enough to start peeing on my garden. At least then some good would come out of his taking them.
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12-18-2013, 19:29
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Haha, No!
Have found that there are certain things that come with a couple of extra years...wisdom and well.....stuff that cannot be discussed in polite company! Especially if taking multivitamins!  Yuk! TS hit the nail on the head!
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A friend of mine was once reciting the litany of vitamins that he was taking, after he finished naming them all I asked him if he would be kind enough to start peeing on my garden. At least then some good would come out of his taking them.
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This is stolen! Seriously, anyone who ever comes knocking with the vitamin pitch...here is my answer!
Holly
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12-18-2013, 20:07
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The only vitamin i take is 'D' in the winter because I get very little sun from November to April in this arctic climate.
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12-18-2013, 20:27
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Originally Posted by mark46th
Just eat your vegetables. You will be fine.
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No better advice than this.......
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12-18-2013, 20:31
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I've always been of the opinion if you eat a variety of healthy foods you'll get all the nutrients and vitamins you need.
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12-18-2013, 20:38
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I never take vitamins and always had blood panels run that showed my vitamin intake was great. So eating food works. Who knew?
However, I recent developed a B12 deficiency. My body stopped processing proteins properly so I need to give myself monthly B12 injections. Eating enough proteins was not an issue. Pills would have been useless.
So I concur whole heartedly with one exception…. get blood work done with your physical.
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12-18-2013, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
No better advice than this.......
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So True TS,
Want to do that dail and hourly!
Eating a bannana during my shift is a bonus, and one I have to make myself do. (AM not one that can eat and cook).
As far as eating in general, healthy or otherwise, I applaud those that can! I cannot.  Eating is a challenge.
Holly
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