09-04-2013, 11:29
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McCain opposes Syria strike resolution
I think John should retire,, but sometimes he is a cagey old bastard..
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McCain opposes Syria strike resolution
Sen. John McCain, President Obama's biggest cheerleader on Capitol Hill for a strike in Syria, said Wednesday that he would not support a Senate panel's draft resolution authorizing the use of force -- forcing a key Senate panel to delay a vote.
"There are a number of people who are unhappy," McCain told reporters on Capitol Hill. Asked if he supported the measure, McCain said, "In its current form, I do not."
The decision was a setback for the administration's effort to win swift support from Congress for an attack. McCain's opposition, though, is likely a negotiating tactic to win more aggressive language in the resolution. McCain said Wednesday afternoon he wants to see a provision that states U.S. action must be aimed at a "reversal of momentum on the ground."
It's unclear how far the rest of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will go, with some members worried the resolution already goes too far. The committee pushed off a planned meeting and possible vote until Wednesday afternoon, though the committee's top Republican, Sen. Bob Corker, said he's fairly certain they can begin work on the resolution later in the day.
McCain, who has long favored stepped-up U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war, said he opposes the resolution crafted by fellow Sens. Bob Menendez of New Jersey and Bob Corker of Tennessee. The resolution puts a 90-day limit on action and says no American troops can be sent to Syria. The draft language also calls on the administration to submit to Congress its strategy for "achieving a political settlement" in Syria.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2dwhdRjDY
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Do you think McCain may be trying to set up barry & the LEFT??
Do you think he may introduce a resolution that forces Boots on the ground??
Do you think he may try to force barry to veto his own request??
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09-04-2013, 11:35
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I think McCain should have called it quits and left politics a long time ago while he still had a few brain cells left.
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09-04-2013, 11:42
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The senile Senator from Arizona guarantees the Syrian rebels are moderates.
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“I have a problem,” Kilmeade said, “helping those people screaming that after a hit.” That incensed McCain, who shot back: “Would you have a problem with an American or Christians saying ‘thank God? Thank God?’ That’s what they’re saying. Come on! Of course they’re Muslims, but they’re moderates and I guarantee you they are moderates.”
Wrong on all counts. In the first place, it does not mean “thank God,” as McCain seems to have affirmed when he said, “That’s what they’re saying.” Allahu akbar means “Allah is greater” – not, as it is often translated, “God is great.” The significance of this is enormous, as it is essentially a proclamation of superiority and supremacism. Allah is greater – than any of the gods of the infidels, and Islam is superior to all other religions.
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09-04-2013, 12:11
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Another 'rock and a hard place' for Bam.
Bam just wants to throw a missile or two so he can get off the hook, the hook he set for himself and our Nation.
John wants a 'game changer'....if you do something make it relevant kind of thing.
John may be senile but at least he's acting with intentions of some principle even if misguided.
Bams intentions are strictly self serving.
I hate to see the Presidency diminished, not a good thing on the foreign affairs front.
Doing nothing, at this point, is almost impossible without us losing in some quarter.
Tis has been the most stupidly played affair I've seen to date.
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09-04-2013, 12:11
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McCain opposes Syria strike resolution
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Robably because there's no pork in it for him or AZ.
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite
I think McCain should have called it quits and left politics a long time ago while he still had a few brain cells left.
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09-04-2013, 12:19
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
I think John should retire,, but sometimes he is a cagey old bastard..
Do you think McCain may be trying to set up barry & the LEFT??
Do you think he may introduce a resolution that forces Boots on the ground??
Do you think he may try to force barry to veto his own request??

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I think the asshat just wants more money.
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09-04-2013, 12:23
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John may be senile but at least he's acting with intentions of some principle even if misguided.
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09-04-2013, 14:10
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My $.00002
IMHO any POTUS has a tough job, though Obama given the nature of his flashy rhetoric and utter lack of spine has talked himself into the type of pickle of a situation where he steps on his crank no matter what happens from here on out. I don't know how cagey Mccain or anyone on the hill needs to be to see a political short squeeze.
Politically, there is no downside for congress to vote this down, let Obama finally own something, because this will be ugly either way, there has already been a great deal of blood and there will be more. There is more to this than politics, if it was just the Assad regime and AQ wanting to duke it out, let Allah sort it out, we might even fence it off and drop in bayonets a la the Hunger Games.
However, I do feel America's enemies many of whom are developing or possess their own WMD will be emboldened by inaction. I don't for a second understand how a limited scale and scope strike accomplishes anything or is even possible, it's not just a matter of unknown unknowns, doesn't history or plain common sense tell us the enemy gets a vote once shots are fired? How can any of these talking heads predict how this ends, the Mid East has always been been a perpetual hornet's nest. Iraq and Libya have reinforced the lessons vaccums don't exist in nature, subsequent regimes can be even worse, and the bulk of the middle east isn't ready for democracy.
Personally I think this can only end with US boots on the ground to secure /ensure the WMD don't end up under AQ control, and congress must set clearly defined operational goals and objectives before once sending them in harms way. What is the objective in Syria, ending the Assad regime, eliminating the WMD?
If Congress wants to be cute they can say okay Mr. Obama since US credibility is now on the line as good Americans we will help walk your talk, but we are broke so we must tack on an addendum to repeal Obamacare to pay for Syria. Obama's narcissism will require a military strike with or without congress, at which point if events escalate to the point of requiring boots on the ground, Congress can come to the rescue " and reconsider given new circumstances"
I'd like to think our elected officials are on this issue finally more concerned with national interests here than re-election, Either way I wouldn't open up a lemonade stand next to the Russian consulate in Damascus anytime soon...
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09-04-2013, 15:59
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He is not cagey he is fossilized, seems the maverick John gets bored at work. Is it any wonder our Country is in the shape it's in?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ion-Syria.html
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09-04-2013, 16:03
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At least HE accomplished Something that day. No one else there did!
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09-04-2013, 16:20
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It is probably convenient for someone in DC that the attention is now on Congress' indecision rather than everyone in the west wing waiting to find out what Valerie tells her charge to do.
They're feeling bound to do something, anything, even if it's wrong or for the wrong reason or too late to be effective - and someone in an American uniform will die because of it. Plus ca change...
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09-04-2013, 16:21
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"Senator, it is time for you to resign your position as my Senator.”
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Gold Star Mom to Poker Player McCain: 'I'm Sorry the Lives of Our Brave Warriors Bore You'
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by Ben Shapiro 4 Sep 2013, 7:06 AM PDT
Responding to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) playing online poker on his iPhone during yesterday’s Senate hearing with Secretary of State John Kerry over war with Syria, Gold Star mother Debbie Lee fired back in an exclusive comment to Breitbart News. “It infuriates me,” she said. “We are facing the possibility of sending our sons and daughters to a war, conflict, military action or whatever politically correct term you use – an action that could change the world as we know it – and McCain couldn’t care less.”
Lee is the founder of America’s Mighty Warriors, a non-profit focusing on Gold Star moms. She lost her son, Navy SEAL Marc Alan Lee, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, on August 2, 2006. Navy officers said that Marc died after single-handedly fighting off enemy fighters as his team rescued a wounded soldier. He fired 100 rounds of ammunition before being killed.
Lee continued, “McCain is so bored that he needs to play poker on his iPhone and then when caught jokes about it. How disgraceful!
Full story and photo: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...bie-Lee-McCain
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09-04-2013, 16:22
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OOPS! Already posted.
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09-04-2013, 18:40
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Mccaine is an absolute nutter. The daft old codger should have slunk back under the rocks years ago when he still had somewhat of a reputation to enjoy.
Freakin' nut-job is going to get us into yet another war.
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09-05-2013, 05:31
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How convenient, Syria's threat to our national security has taken the spotlight off of the myriad of scandals plaguing the White House, the IRS, the Justice Department, the BATF, the NSA, and the State Department.
If all of these impeachable actions equal the permissible murders that took place in Bengazi, then Syria is the laughable YouTube video that "sparked the attack" on 9-11-12.
Washington needs to be taken out behind the shed like a sick dog and put down.
Remember, there is a man in California serving time for instigating the attacks in Bengazi.
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