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Old 05-19-2013, 09:37   #1
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Read the full "Other Than Honorable" project, including the stories of three soldiers, slide shows, video and more, at gazette.com.

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DEFINITIONS:

Chapter 10: Resignation in lieu of court-martial. A soldier charged by the Army with a criminal offense and facing prison and a punitive discharge can volunteer to quit the Army instead. In exchange, the soldier waives rights to any benefits. Because soldiers volunteer for Chapter 10, it skips any medical review process of soldiers' war injuries.

Chapter 14: Separation for misconduct. Soldiers charged with minor disciplinary infractions, a pattern of misconduct, commission of a serious offense such as drug use, conviction by civilian authorities and absence without leave can be discharged through Chapter 14. They are typically given an other-than-honorable discharge. Soldiers must have a full physical exam before being discharged. If the exam shows injuries, the soldier must complete the IDES process before being discharged.








IDES process: Soldiers enter the Integrated Disability Evaluation System, or IDES, if they have injuries or other medical issues that cause them to fall below retention standards for physical fitness. The process, informally know as "being med boarded," identifies disabilities and assigns a value for compensation by the Army and VA. It takes on average about 420 days to complete Army-wide. During this time, soldiers generally stay with their combat units.

Warrior Transition Unit: A unit designed for soldiers who require "at least six months of rehabilitative care and complex medical management." Transferring soldiers to the WTU allows combat units to get replacement troops, though WTU soldiers still count against the total soldier population of the Army. Most WTU soldiers are simultaneously going through IDES to medically discharge from the Army.

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By Dave Philipps

The Gazette

At the end of the longest period of war in American history, the number of soldiers being discharged from the Army for misconduct has risen steadily to its highest rate in recent times. Among the discharged are wounded combat troops, who, as a result of their other-than-honorable discharges, lose medical care and other veterans benefits.

The Gazette in Colorado Springs, Colo., found in an investigation of Army data obtained through the Freedom of Information Act that annual misconduct discharges are up more than 25 percent Army-wide since 2009, mirroring the rise in wounded. Among combat troops, the increase is especially sharp. Since 2009, total discharges at the eight Army posts that house most of the service's combat units have surged 67 percent since 2009. The Gazette found the discharges include soldiers with multiple tours and diagnosed post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, and traumatic brain injuries, or TBI.

"I've been working on this since the '70s, and I have never seen anything like this," said Mark Waple of the surge in discharges. He is a retired Army officer who now tries military cases as a civilian lawyer near Fort Bragg in North Carolina. "There seems to be a propensity to use minor misconduct for separation, even for service members who are decorated in combat and injured."

The Gazette found decades-old Army policies don't always accommodate or account for multiple deployments or behavior resulting from injuries suffered by today's soldiers.

Soldiers can be discharged for a range of misconduct, from tardiness to violent crimes. The Gazette found they were sometimes cut loose for small offenses that the Army acknowledges can be symptoms of TBI and PTSD.

"I see it every day," said Lenore Yarger, a veterans advocate near Fort Bragg. "We have gotten very efficient at getting people to fight wars but are not prepared to deal with the aftermath."

Several soldiers reported testing positive for drugs but were deployed anyway to combat zones because the Army needed the troops, the Gazette found. When they returned, they were discharged for the offense.

In other cases, the soldiers were discharged after suffering severe brain injuries in combat.

Kash Alvaro, a wounded combat soldier at Fort Carson, Colo., suffered from regular seizures from a traumatic brain injury after being in a bomb blast in Afghanistan that caused him to land on his head. He was discharged in January 2012 for a pattern of misconduct that included missing medical appointments and going AWOL for two weeks. He was discharged without even the medicine to stop his seizures. Because his other-than-honorable discharge bars him from veterans benefits, he soon became homeless and relied on the local hospital emergency room for care. He estimates he's been hospitalized 80 times since his discharge.

"It was like my best friend betrayed me," Alvaro said from a hospital bed. "I had given the Army everything, and they took everything away."

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he was not aware of any rise in misconduct discharges but disagreed that the military is using minor misconduct to discharge veterans.

"We go to great lengths to try to rehabilitate those who don't meet or maintain required standards prior to initiating separation proceedings," he said. "We may not get it right 100 percent of the time, but we work hard to identify at-risk troops in time for intervention and, failing that, carefully consider each case in context before separating someone."

An Army spokesman said the service does not track the number of soldiers wounded in war who are later kicked out.

Maj. Gen. Joseph Anderson, who was Fort Carson's commander until March and is slated to become commander of Fort Bragg, also defended the Army's practices, saying the Army makes caring for soldiers a priority and that the number of injured who are discharged is "not a significant number." Still, he said, distinguishing injuries from misconduct is next to impossible.

"It's the hardest thing," he said. "We physically, literally struggle with it every day."

The Gazette found similar reports of wounded soldiers kicked out for misconduct for minor violations at Fort Bragg; Fort Bliss, Texas; Fort Drum, N.Y.; and Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington.

The rise in discharges is driven in part by a new type of war in which troops deploy repeatedly between stints at home, making them soldiers and veterans at once. Each time they deploy, studies show, their risk of developing PTSD and brain injuries rises, as does the risk of misconduct. But Army regulations require them to follow strict rules of the active duty military.

In addition, after 10 years of war, the Army faces mandated budget cuts and orders to reduce the force. Defense spending has increased steadily since 2001, but began to decline in 2012, according to the Congressional Budget Office, dropping $33 billion last year, according to the CBO, and is slated to decrease an additional $36 billion due to mandated budget cuts in the next year. The Army must draw down by at least 80,000 troops by 2017. In response, the Army has tightened discipline standards. The Marines face similar drawdown pressure.

Army commanders are already exceeding their drawdown goals, Sgt. Maj. of the Army Raymond Chandler told Army Times in April, adding, "I'm proud of the fact that our solders, our leaders, are being engaged in this and taking action." Chandler did not respond to requests for an interview.

Observers say the cuts too often fall on soldiers whose performance has slipped because of invisible wounds.

People inside the Army and out say injured soldiers can be a burden to combat units, which want to get rid of them quickly. The medical discharge process typically takes more than a year, so units sometimes push for a quicker misconduct discharge.

Fort Bliss soldier Eric McIntosh was deployed twice to Iraq with an infantry battalion. When he was diagnosed with PTSD and checked into a psychiatric hospital for being suicidal in 2012, his commander decided to kick him out for a pattern of misconduct.

"My patterns were that I missed three medical appointments when I was hospitalized," McIntosh said.

He appealed to an Army board, which agreed he should be kicked out. He was spared only after sending a letter to top Pentagon officials.

"I still have issues, problems. I'm still coping with stuff," McIntosh said. "I'm just more reluctant to get help."

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Old 05-19-2013, 09:58   #2
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The inference from the "risen steadily" comment is that soldier quality has declined. More likely it was overlooked for the last ten years.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:21   #3
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I witnessed this first hand at Ft Gordon. Highly decorated SSG former infantry forced to reclass to Signal MOS due to brain and spinal injuries. Then misconduct discharged when he actually attended appointments he had made with VA and other medical entities instead of being at work even though his supervisor had knowledge of the appointments. The CO built up a crap record of disobeying a direct order and being AWOL. Shortly after the SSG was discharged, the CO was promoted to MAJ and sent to Hawaii as a reward for exemplary performance during his command.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:20   #4
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Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he was not aware of any rise in misconduct discharges but disagreed that the military is using minor misconduct to discharge veterans.

"We go to great lengths to try to rehabilitate those who don't meet or maintain required standards prior to initiating separation proceedings," he said. "We may not get it right 100 percent of the time, but we work hard to identify at-risk troops in time for intervention and, failing that, carefully consider each case in context before separating someone."
This is a real problem and GEN Dempsey is either complicit or derelict in his duties. Even in the SF Regiment I'm certain most of us know of cases where discharge was easier than treatment. Down the street in Division, it's endemic. Any leader monitoring their personnel can easily recognize the strains of 12 years of war. All you have to do is read the blotter or the OPREPs and cross check with personnel records to see the correlation. The Army's answer is another PowerPoint and/or video and a two-hour mandatory training session so they can sweep it under the rug with a self-satisfied "we did something". And everybody wonders why Soldiers with problems don't seek help. Anybody else remember the scandals at the various WTBs where wounded Soldiers were being UCMJ'd because it was easier than treatment?
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:39   #5
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I was once told that SF (and the Army in general) treats soldiers like a can of beer: They open you up, take everything good out of you, and then crush you and move right along to the next one.

I'm not surprised by any of this.
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Old 05-19-2013, 14:59   #6
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I was once told that SF (and the Army in general) treats soldiers like a can of beer: They open you up, take everything good out of you, and then crush you and move right along to the next one.

I'm not surprised by any of this.
Since you did not qualify that statement, it assumes that it is SOP for every SF Soldier. The 10% rule applies here. There are "crap" officers as there are NCOs and lower enlisted.

I have also seen SF commanders and Sergeant Majors go out of their way to give a low performance Soldier every chance they could, only to be slapped in the face. Whoever told you that statement - if he is referring to the bulk of our Regiment - has no clue.

Can we do better? Yes, everyday. Do certain things about our leadership - at every level - piss me off? Sure. But, having spent time on both sides of the force (conventional and SOF), I have seen far more care taken of our men on this side. I have experienced, and seen, far more good news stories than bad ones.
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Old 05-19-2013, 18:37   #7
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Remember when we said that lowering standards, both in the Army and in SF, would have consequences?

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Old 05-19-2013, 19:35   #8
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There were issues after the war in RVN...but that was a dif Army, you could drink, fight and carry on a bit and that was considered what soldiers did.
In this PC environment it would have been a great deal dif.
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Remember when we said that lowering standards, both in the Army and in SF, would have consequences?

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Aw, come on TR, that implies that lowered entry and/or qualification standards and rushed training plays a part in this current situation, rather than laying 100% of the blame on The Man. You can't seriously be implying that this recent rise in misconduct could have anything to do with the troops themselves, can you?"
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Since you did not qualify that statement, it assumes that it is SOP for every SF Soldier. The 10% rule applies here. There are "crap" officers as there are NCOs and lower enlisted.

I have also seen SF commanders and Sergeant Majors go out of their way to give a low performance Soldier every chance they could, only to be slapped in the face. Whoever told you that statement - if he is referring to the bulk of our Regiment - has no clue.

Can we do better? Yes, everyday. Do certain things about our leadership - at every level - piss me off? Sure. But, having spent time on both sides of the force (conventional and SOF), I have seen far more care taken of our men on this side. I have experienced, and seen, far more good news stories than bad ones.
Well said!

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