H&K's new 45ACP offering.

[rubberneck]

I found these pics on a different message board in a thread about H&K's entrant in the JCP trials. I am sure the H&K afficiandos here will approve.

Some of the QP's might recognize the gentleman in picture number 2. Since he is identified by name in another one of the pictures that appeared in the magazine I hope it is ok to post them here without blacking his face out.

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

The only thing I notice in slide number two is that he appears to have his thumb jammed up along the slide. Perhaps this is to reduce the rate of fire

[Chris]

It will reduce the skin on his thumbs!

Looks good, I like the USP series pistols. I hope the adjustable backstrap on this version will fit my hands better. Better come in black.

[Tuukka]

Well, having owned an USP for eight years and apart from a very few, user induced failures, it has never failed to fire.

With the proper people providing input on this new pistol, it looks to be an excellent weapon.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

The only thing I notice in slide number two is that he appears to have his thumb jammed up along the slide. Perhaps this is to reduce the rate of fire

Like this Sir?

Its a new sort of hold. You can place your thumb on the slide all you like.... its what I also teach....

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Like this Sir?

Its a new sort of hold. You can place your thumb on the slide all you like.... its what I also teach....

It works. Takes a while to integrate though, especially if you learned to lock the firing thumb under the non-firing thumb (like most of us older guys did). Personally I've never had problems with slide contact while using it. It does make it easier to manipulate switches on rail mounted pistol lights with the non-firing thumb. My .02 - Peregrino

[NousDefionsDoc]

I shoot thumbs forward too. Like in the TS picture.

That HK is a nice looking weapon. Do we like this one TS?

[rubberneck]

I am glad I am not the only one here who shots with his thumbs high. Here are a couple more pics.

[NousDefionsDoc]

I thought L. Vickers is a 1911 guy?

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

I shoot thumbs forward too. Like in the TS picture.

That HK is a nice looking weapon. Do we like this one TS?

Ya know, phrench fires now come “biggie sized”.

We wear different size underwear, shoes, hats etc. Its time for weapons to change size to accommodate shooters different hand sizes.

Most don’t have large hands. Most don’t possess a guerilla grip. Most lack the upper body and forearm strength requisite to shoot handguns accurately, again and again.

H&K has (evidently) re-invented the grip close to that of a 1911. Easy to wrap your hands around and easier to “hold on” to a hand cannon such as the .45. It makes up for not possessing grip strength. We'll see. (I've yet to shoot one.)

I like most things H&K, but the weapon pictured sure is ugly…..

TS

[NousDefionsDoc]

Well, I don't want an ugly gun, big phrench phries or somebody elses underwear.

And I never had a problem holding on to my gun, no matter how many times I shot it - IT'S MY GUN.

I'll wait for your review.

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

I thought L. Vickers is a 1911 guy?

He is but IIRC he was hired by H&K to be the project manager on the 416 project. I guess he stayed on after that. Since the JCP bid excludes single action only guns the 1911's are out of the picture.

[M4Guru]

Larry Vickers has stated he is no longer in the 1911 business, unless it's to fill paid orders on his wait list. He says this is his new 1911...

I like this thing, my P2000 9mm has been nothing but great-and this is just a bigger P2000 in a better caliber...Beats an M9, that's for sure.

[Q]

I got a thing for Colt's. Especially the 1911 .45. I've got small hands and weak wrists. Ain't dropped it yet. I'm prejudiced against the 9mm. It might be easier to shoot but doesn't have the punch (as you all already know). I've heard through the grapevine that contractors and others are picking up .45's when ever they can because of the knock down capability. They seem to like the heavier cal. long guns too. I.E. 7.62. Looking for M-14's over M-4's. Of course this is just hear say. Can anyone verify??

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Like this Sir?

Its a new sort of hold. You can place your thumb on the slide all you like.... its what I also teach....

Well who says you can't teach old dogs new tricks? Guess it's time to get retrained. Guess the next thing you'll tell me is that they did away with the metal canteen, the wooden handle entrenching tool and the Davey Crocket?