07-07-2012, 11:19
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Obama's Arms Treaty.........
Obama arms treaty signing July 27th...........
http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...ms-treaty.html
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07-07-2012, 11:31
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I think I just lost all my firearms...should I call the cops or something???
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07-09-2012, 18:05
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Iran has been chosen as a member of the “bureau” overseeing a month-long United Nations conference in New York aimed at finalizing a controversial global “arms trade treaty.”
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iran...-madoff-police
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07-09-2012, 18:33
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Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.
On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.
Or an alien attack to take the place out.
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07-10-2012, 12:14
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Originally Posted by Kyobanim
On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.
Or an alien attack to take the place out. 
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It's worth a shot.
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07-10-2012, 12:58
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Originally Posted by Kyobanim
Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.
On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.
Or an alien attack to take the place out. 
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I don't think we should get out but I'm all in favor of paying no more than any of the other 192 members. Without cash they can't finance 99% of the bizarre off the wall crap that they come up with. Let them beg the Chinese to pick up our 22% of their annual budget while we pay China's paltry 3.189%
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07-11-2012, 17:51
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
The current pres has decided to bypass the old outdate part of this law it is a living document you know. He is the anointed one and can do that. Btw the Geneva accords were never ratified by the Senete yea we follow them and prosicute soldiers for violating them.
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This may be of interest to you: http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebSign?...rm&id=375&ps=P
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07-14-2012, 16:50
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Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.
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You are correct about the 2/3 vote...however the MARPOL Treaty signed by SoS Hillary Clinton in 2010 has not received a 2/3 vote in favor of ratification.
Despite this the EPA, the Department of Homeland Security and others are apparently using this marine treaty amendment as the basis for the new federal regulations without waiting for ratification of that amendment by the U.S. Senate.
Alaska sues to block low-sulfur fuel requirement for ships
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07-14-2012, 18:33
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This isn't good,we better watch this!.........
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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07-16-2012, 16:16
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This is a big issue to me and everyone I meet. The president is destroying our constitutional rights.
So much for, "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
He is placing a lot of stress on the Federal vs State, while at the same time overstepping his power. Well here is a letter from congress to the president and secretary of state.
http://kelly.house.gov/sites/kelly.h...T%20Letter.pdf
IMO I think this is one of the reasons why AZ is doing what it is doing (reference thread http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...ad.php?t=38706).
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07-16-2012, 16:21
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It's the UN and there are members of Congress tracking and pushing to counter such a 'worst case' scenario - let me know when the UN collects all the $$ they claim we've owed them for decades and I'll break out the aluminum foil and start worrying.
And so it goes...
Richard
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07-16-2012, 19:47
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Originally Posted by spherojon
This is a big issue to me and everyone I meet. The president is destroying our constitutional rights.
So much for, "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
He is placing a lot of stress on the Federal vs State, while at the same time overstepping his power. Well here is a letter from congress to the president and secretary of state.
http://kelly.house.gov/sites/kelly.h...T%20Letter.pdf
IMO I think this is one of the reasons why AZ is doing what it is doing (reference thread http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...ad.php?t=38706).
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I believe you are right in one respect, but keep in mind that the Congress and HOR have just as much to do with out Constitutional rights being eroded in this country. Think back to high school and how a law is made, and who is responsible for passing them.
Here ya' go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
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07-17-2012, 00:34
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Originally Posted by AngelsSix
I believe you are right in one respect, but keep in mind that the Congress and HOR have just as much to do with out Constitutional rights being eroded in this country. Think back to high school and how a law is made, and who is responsible for passing them.
Here ya' go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
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I remember that video from school LOL good link.
Couple things
"Lastly, regardless of negotiated text, the Administration must make clear its reservations, understandings, and declarations that the ATT places no new requirements for action on the U.S., because the U.S. law is already compliant with the treaty regime or that the treaty cannot change the Bill of Rights or the constitutional allocation of power between the federal and state governments."
"Further, the Constitution gives the power to regulate international commerce to Congress alone, and the ATT will be considered non-self executing until Congress enacts any legislation to implement the agreement."
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07-17-2012, 16:43
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I think I just lost all my firearms...should I call the cops or something???
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The same day that it comes time to bury (or lose) our guns is the very day we need to be digging them up (or finding them).
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07-17-2012, 17:03
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My Response.........
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
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