Why Did Obama Win the Obama Vote?

[Dusty]

Thanks, Gals.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1957474547001/

[Stargazer]

I noticed that too.

I am a conservative (with a lot of libertarian leanings) single (divorced) female that is head of household with four children that I have raised. But, I have also been (at one time in my life) a single female without children.

This is my take on it -- FWIW. I am pro-choice by policy, pro-life by personal choice/belief. I don't believe it is the role of government to inject itself in personal choices of this nature.

Sadly, I observed several women talk about this was a vote about women rights. That statement dumbfounded me. When I asked them about what right was Romney/Ryan going to take away... they'd go into abortion, birth-control and choices on what's best for my body/life. I asked, "really, what piece of legislation did they state they'd introduce or repeal to deny birth-control or abortion?" They could not name a piece of legislation but mentioned funding of planned parenthood. I countered so it's not a right that is in question but rather tax dollar funding.

FWIW........

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Stargazer

I noticed that too.


Sadly, I observed several women talk about this was a vote about women rights.

Well, they succeeded in cutting off their noses despite their faces.

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Well, they succeeded in cutting off their noses despite their faces.

Agreed. Nonetheless, the social fabric of this country is changing. I am the product of the generation that lived through a depression and war which weaved a fabric of country, faith, family and tradition.

I confess I'm in a solemn mood following his re-election and am searching for the why behind it. I've even resorted to watching "Duck Dynasty" for some sanity.

Watching all the layoff headlines might start bringing reality back to voters. Hope those Virginians and government contract workers are happy about their vote as well. Boeing's government operations are a changing.........

For the time being I'm regrouping, preparing and praying.

[Stargazer]

On Wednesday, Murray also laid off 54 people at American Coal, one of his subsidiary companies, and 102 at Utah American Energy, blaming a “war on coal” by the administration of President Barack Obama.”

Murray Energy is the country’s largest privately owned coal mining company, with about 3,000 employees producing about 30 million tons of bituminous coal a year, according to its Web site.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...684_story.html

My regret, Lord, is that our young people, including those in my own family, never will know what America was like or might have been. They will pay the price in their reduced standard of living and, most especially, reduced freedom.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...d-Its-Own-Vote

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by WCH

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...d-Its-Own-Vote

"suppressed" because of failure in an election-day app?

I might have to write that down in my I'll Be Damned" book as in the Top-5 of the dumbest shit I ever heard.

[Dusty]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...gap-in-history

The gender gap in the 2012 presidential election was the largest since Gallup began tracking the metric in 1952, according to data released by the polling firm on Friday.


President Obama won women by 12 percentage points, while Mitt Romney won men by 8. That’s a 20-point gender gap, edging out the 1984 election when Ronald Reagan defeated Democrat Walter Mondale in a landslide.

Reagan won both men and women in that election, but carried men by 28 points and women by only 10 – a disparity of 18 points.

2012 was the fifth straight election to feature a double-digit gender gap.

Still, Romney performed better among women than Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) did in 2008. Obama had a 14-point advantage among female voters over his GOP counterpart that year. Romney also outperformed McCain among men in this election – in 2008 Obama and McCain split the male vote.

The politics of gender played a significant role throughout the 2012 election, as Romney looked to cut into Obama’s advantage among female voters by framing the economy as a women’s issue.

The strategy worked for a while, as polls showed women flocking to the GOP challenger after his strong first debate performance. But Romney was unable to hold on to those gains in the final weeks of the campaign, and the Obama campaign relentlessly portrayed the GOP candidate as a throwback to the 1950s in his views on women's reproductive and pay equity issues.

Romney may also have been hurt by two Republican House candidates, former Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) and Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock. Both Senate candidates, who lost their election bids, made controversial comments about rape and abortion that reignited the Democratic line of attack from earlier in the cycle that the GOP is looking to “turn back the clock” on women’s issues.


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[Dusty]

Looks like the only thing we conservatives have to do to win is become libs.

Don't hold your breath.

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Looks like the only thing we conservatives have to do to win is become libs.

Don't hold your breath.

I guess part of that is in your definition of 'conservative'.

What's more important to you?
1) Avoiding falling off the coming fiscal cliff, or
2) Maintaining your right to "keep and bear" arms, or
3) Telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

If I told you that you could have "two out of three" of those (and remember "Meatloaf" says "two out of three ain't bad"), which would you choose?

Or would you just say, "Give me all three, or I'll take NOTHING!" (Because, ladies and gentlemn, that is precisely what's going to happen if the GOP doesn't wake the hell up, tell the radicals who believe that "The Flintstones" IS reality, and decide what is most important RIGHT now.)

I know there are a lot of people who pulled the lever for Obama who really believe they were not given any other viable option.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by ZonieDiver

I know there are a lot of people who pulled the lever for Obama who really believe they were not given any other viable option.

Why? Because Romney was gonna outlaw birth control? Because he wasn't. Because he was gonna lead us over the fiscal cliff? Repeal the 2d ammendment? I don't see how people could believe they had no viable option.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Dusty

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...gap-in-history

The gender gap in the 2012 presidential election was the largest since Gallup began tracking the metric in 1952, according to data released by the polling firm on Friday.


President Obama won women by 12 percentage points, while Mitt Romney won men by 8. That’s a 20-point gender gap, edging out the 1984 election when Ronald Reagan defeated Democrat Walter Mondale in a landslide.

Reagan won both men and women in that election, but carried men by 28 points and women by only 10 – a disparity of 18 points.

2012 was the fifth straight election to feature a double-digit gender gap.

Still, Romney performed better among women than Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) did in 2008. Obama had a 14-point advantage among female voters over his GOP counterpart that year. Romney also outperformed McCain among men in this election – in 2008 Obama and McCain split the male vote.

The politics of gender played a significant role throughout the 2012 election, as Romney looked to cut into Obama’s advantage among female voters by framing the economy as a women’s issue.

The strategy worked for a while, as polls showed women flocking to the GOP challenger after his strong first debate performance. But Romney was unable to hold on to those gains in the final weeks of the campaign, and the Obama campaign relentlessly portrayed the GOP candidate as a throwback to the 1950s in his views on women's reproductive and pay equity issues.

Romney may also have been hurt by two Republican House candidates, former Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) and Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock. Both Senate candidates, who lost their election bids, made controversial comments about rape and abortion that reignited the Democratic line of attack from earlier in the cycle that the GOP is looking to “turn back the clock” on women’s issues.


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With the way you have been bitching you sound like a woman with PMS.

[Richard]

From what I've seen and heard, when it comes to women, voting, and political party affiliation, candidates like Akin-MO ("legitimate rape") and Mourdock-IN (opposing abortions for rape-induced pregnancy because it’s “something God intended.”) being backed by any party scare the hell out of people and have a strong influence on their voting choices.

And so it goes...

Richard

[ZonieDiver]

Because he wasn't.

You may know this. I may know this. However, there were obviously a LOT of people out there who weren't so sure about this. Given the dynamics illlustrated in the GOP primary, some of the buffoonish statements by R officeholders trying to "move on up to the Eastside", and the way the Rs let the Ds paint the landscape (and remember... the Rs BROUGHT it up... stepped right into the leghold trap the Ds put out- grabbing for the little birth control bait that had been put there), how could those people think anything else?

Those same people, and many others, "know" that Obama is not a socialist, isn't going to send his TSA VIPR "brownshirts" after us, or use his magical Muslim ring to let the MB reign in DC. They "know" that just like you "know" Romney wouldn't "outlaw birth control".

The choice is before us as Rs and conservatives. We are going to have to choose. I've made mine. I know what is most important to the continued prosperity and freedom of this country I love. It isn't mucking about over birth control. "Not at this juncture. Wouldn't be prudent."

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by afchic

With the way you have been bitching you sound like a woman with PMS.

lol Right.

I don't take credit for the article.

Try dropping denial from your perspective, and you might see the truth for what it is. {**OFFENSIVE TEXT**}

Edited by Richard.