04-02-2012, 11:46
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Swing States Poll: A Shift by Women puts Obama in Lead
Are there, honestly, that many stupid females in this Country?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...oll/53930684/1
MILWAUKEE – President Obama has opened the first significant lead of the 2012 campaign in the nation's dozen top battleground states, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, boosted by a huge shift of women to his side.
In the fifth Swing States survey taken since last fall, Obama leads Republican front-runner Mitt Romney 51%-42% among registered voters just a month after the president had trailed him by two percentage points.
The biggest change came among women under 50. In mid-February, just under half of those voters supported Obama. Now more than six in 10 do while Romney's support among them has dropped by 14 points, to 30%. The president leads him 2-1 in this group.
Romney's main advantage is among men 50 and older, swamping Obama 56%-38%.
Republicans' traditional strength among men "won't be good enough if we're losing women by nine points or 10 points," says Sara Taylor Fagen, a Republican strategist and former political adviser to President George W. Bush. "The focus on contraception has not been a good one for us … and Republicans have unfairly taken on water on this issue."
IN WISCONSIN:GOP stances alienate women, Obama team says
In the poll, Romney leads among all men by a single point, but the president leads among women by 18. That reflects a greater disparity between the views of men and women than the 12-point gender gap in the 2008 election.
Obama campaign manager Jim Messina says Romney's promise to "end Planned Parenthood" — the former Massachusetts governor says he wants to eliminate federal funding for the group — and his endorsement of an amendment that would allow employers to refuse to cover contraception in health care plans have created "severe problems" for him in the general election.
"Romney's run to the right may be winning him Tea Party votes," Messina said in an interview, but he says it's demonstrated that "American women can't trust Romney to stand up for them."
He adds: "It would be hard for them to win if you have this kind of gender gap."
Romney pollster Neil Newhouse predicts the gender gap will narrow as Romney moves from the pitched battle of the GOP primaries — Wisconsin, Maryland and the District of Columbia vote Tuesday — to a fall election focused on economic issues.
"If there's a gender gap, it goes beyond Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum to a partisan gender gap," Newhouse said in an interview. "It's not Romney-specific. I would argue that it's broader than that."
While women typically are more likely to identify themselves as Democrats than men are, that difference widens to a chasm in the USA TODAY poll. By 41%-24%, women call themselves Democrats; men by 27%-25% say they're Republicans.
The survey of 933 registered voters, taken March 20-26, has a margin of error of +/- 4 points. The swing states surveyed are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.
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04-02-2012, 11:57
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Are there, honestly, that many stupid females in this Country?
IN WISCONSIN:GOP stances alienate women, Obama team says
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Of course the Obama Team would say that. Right now people are fired up (and "mad") at the current Republican governor, many who I've talked to unable to articulate exactly why - but they like signing things like recall petitions. Same phenomenon seen during GWB's 2nd term with tantrums thrown via Sharpie inside the voting booth. Milwaukee proper itself is a bastion of people with their upturned palm out. The counties completely surrounding it are deep red; and there might even be some conservative fish left in Lake Michigan.
It is still a primary; and rags like USAToday seldom venture from the concrete. Counties very recently visited by the GOP contenders attached. As a friend from Wyoming says, "this could get western."
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04-02-2012, 12:01
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Point well taken, unfortunately, stupid knows no gender in this coming presidential election.
I still run into folks (non-females) who are fooled by Barry.
Keep fighting the good fight.
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04-02-2012, 12:13
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Point well taken, unfortunately, stupid knows no gender in this coming presidential election.
I still run into folks (non-females) who are fooled by Barry.
Keep fighting the good fight.
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Oh, don't get me wrong! As long as people get out there and vote-that's all I (coughs) care (gags, actually pukes a little) about.
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04-02-2012, 15:20
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"Registered voter" polls are not as accurate as "likely voter" polls. I would like to see the numbers from the same states in a likely-voter poll.
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04-03-2012, 11:42
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I always wondered why women weren’t allowed to vote. Initially, I thought it was about power over women, but I have come to a different conclusion. About 5-6 years ago I watched a documentary about street pimps; furthermore, how they recruit new women to work for them. It was like watching a politician run for office, how he could sell a bag of goods, make up these utopian fantasies about how much money they would make, and they could retire together on some island with people serving them. And, these women just soaked it up like a sponge, never challenging their sales pitch, or calling them out. Of course, later down the road, the pimp was mistreating them, but these women would defend the pimp, and blame other pimps for their pimp’s shortcomings. Very loyal to their pimps, no matter how they treated them. Politics is just a bigger pimp game, with promises and grand plans that never seem to materialize. The left blames the right, and the right blames the left. It’s the pimp game par excellence.
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04-03-2012, 12:31
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"...Politics is just a bigger pimp game,..."
Given most of our current crop of politicians you just might owe an apology to "pimps" everywhere.
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04-03-2012, 14:23
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I always wondered why women weren’t allowed to vote. Initially, I thought it was about power over women, but I have come to a different conclusion. About 5-6 years ago I watched a documentary about street pimps; furthermore, how they recruit new women to work for them. It was like watching a politician run for office, how he could sell a bag of goods, make up these utopian fantasies about how much money they would make, and they could retire together on some island with people serving them. And, these women just soaked it up like a sponge, never challenging their sales pitch, or calling them out. Of course, later down the road, the pimp was mistreating them, but these women would defend the pimp, and blame other pimps for their pimp’s shortcomings. Very loyal to their pimps, no matter how they treated them. Politics is just a bigger pimp game, with promises and grand plans that never seem to materialize. The left blames the right, and the right blames the left. It’s the pimp game par excellence.
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Well that is an interesting take on women. So you are stating that because some women, for whatever reason, become prostitutes and have a pimp, all women shouldn't be allowed to vote?  Interesting.
It is almost as interesting as the portion of the Koran that states a woman can not provide testimony during a trial because women are emotional creatures and therefore can not be trusted to give truthful testimonty because their emotions inherently get in the way.
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04-03-2012, 17:30
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Are there, honestly, that many stupid females in this Country?
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Where's the pink font?
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04-03-2012, 17:44
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Don't make me drag out my stats on how women got Obama elected, young'un.
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04-03-2012, 21:37
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This whole thread. . . Really?
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04-04-2012, 03:54
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Astounding. 
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04-04-2012, 05:18
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Misogyny is a helluva disease, y'all.
Look, I'm incredulous about the poll in that I believe it's gotta be wrong, for one thing.
Still, ignorant voting decisions by females have contributed greatly to the election of a couple of the sorriest excuses for POTUS' this Country has ever experienced, which I've already proven on this forum.
I'm also incredulous over how easily the Dems were able to manipulate women regarding the birth control issue. Use your heads, ladies. (I'm addressing the universal lady, not the intrepid members of this BB.)
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Misogyny is a helluva disease, y'all.
Look, I'm incredulous about the poll in that I believe it's gotta be wrong, for one thing.
Still, ignorant voting decisions by females have contributed greatly to the election of a couple of the sorriest excuses for POTUS' this Country has ever experienced, which I've already proven on this forum.
I'm also incredulous over how easily the Dems were able to manipulate women regarding the birth control issue. Use your heads, ladies. (I'm addressing the universal lady, not the intrepid members of this BB.)
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I would argue that it was the ignorance, not the gender that was the problem. There are plenty of ignorant men contributing to the current state of affairs IMHO. YMMV....
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04-04-2012, 05:52
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I would argue that it was the ignorance, not the gender that was the problem. There are plenty of ignorant men contributing to the current state of affairs IMHO. YMMV....
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Oh, ho, ho, that goes without saying, Doc.
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