09-26-2013, 08:41
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Forcing Recruits To Sing Nursery Rhymes Is Hazing
Well, here we go! Eee...ei...eee..ei...oh! 
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Training Boss: Forcing Recruits To Sing Nursery Rhymes Is Hazing
NavyTimes, 25 Sep 2013
The recruit division commander who forced his recruits to recite nursery rhymes abused his power and deserved to be punished, the head of Naval Service Training Command told Navy Times.
“The idea is to teach humility and selfless-service without sacrificing self-worth, and if we find that someone has attempting to instill militarization using techniques that don’t conform to those principals, then it’s out of line,” said Rear Adm. Dee Mewbourne in a Sept. 19 interview.
Based on the admissions of the unnamed sailor — a machinist’s mate first class with eight years of service — nursery rhymes were his preferred form of punishment while training recruits at Great Lakes, Ill.
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■ Ordering a recruit to sing “Itsy Bitsy Spider” while performing what the Navy described as a “Soldier Boy” dance.
■ Ordering two recruits to stand on one foot and wave an arm while reciting “I’m a Little Teapot.”
■ Ordering two recruits to recite “Jack and Jill.”
(Cont'd) http://www.navytimes.com/article/201...-rhymes-hazing
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09-26-2013, 12:34
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And what do they call what goes on at the Service Academies?
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09-26-2013, 12:53
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And what do they call what goes on at the Service Academies?
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Sexual Assault?
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09-26-2013, 19:58
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Instead of bitching like a grade-school girl, they ought to perform required "punishment" with as much humility - and good humor - as possible.
And what the hell is wrong with military "leaders" that this has ever become an issue?
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Last edited by Stobey; 09-26-2013 at 19:58.
Reason: fixing typos again...
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09-26-2013, 20:11
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What bullshit that something like this would even be made into an issue.....if a Drill Sergeant had done this when I was a DS we would have busted his chops for being a pussy.....
My favorite was "Flash flood" and the last Joe on the ground did push ups til the cows came home. They'd be hanging off the WW2 barracks, climbing trees....react.
Or "Incoming!'' and they'd low crawl while I threw rocks over their heads...to high and you got 'wounded'.
Sing songs...yeah, really. How abusive.
Honestly speaking, Joe enjoyed that crap...like the runs up misery and agony hills...it was what he'd heard about from Dad and Grandpa.
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09-26-2013, 22:48
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Jeez. If people got bent out of shape over that, some of the Jody Calls we did would have left those people requiring psychiatric counseling...
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09-26-2013, 22:59
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09-27-2013, 03:35
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...put them in a pumpkin shell and made their lives a living hell...
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09-27-2013, 06:45
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Honestly speaking, Joe enjoyed that crap...like the runs up misery and agony hills...it was what he'd heard about from Dad and Grandpa.
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Riigghhtt......Joe liked having his head stoved in by a rock and those really cool killer runs that made him puke.
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09-27-2013, 12:25
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Admiral Stockdale is rolling over in his grave right now.
Which is to say, I wonder what a man who would rather beat himself in the face until he turns purple then be used by the enemy as propaganda, a man who would rather slit his wrists then capitulate under torture, would think about being forced to sign nursery rhymes being called hazing.
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09-27-2013, 12:29
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Riigghhtt......Joe liked having his head stoved in by a rock and those really cool killer runs that made him puke. 
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He did, I swear!.....
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09-28-2013, 08:27
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This is a tragic sign of our times. I went through Parris Island in the "Full Metal Jacket" era. The movie was dead on, except that we were punched in the gut or had our insteps stomped (YOur right foot is the one that hurts, BITCH!) a lot more than in the movie. That being said, PI was the funniest place on earth. You just couldn't laugh out loud. No one got PTSD from it. Sadly, even today's Marine Corps is "kinder and gentler."
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09-28-2013, 08:35
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Typical libdem chickification.
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