1910 Belgian Mauser

33army · 12-21-2011, 06:11

I went into a local owned hunting shop yesterday to kill time with the wife. The shop sales consignment weapons so I like to browse. I ran across a Mauser rifle for $375 dated from 1910 with original bayonet, or at least that's what the owner says it is dated at. The price struck me as odd so I was wondering if anyone here might tell me if that is a reasonable price for the rifle if it is what the owner claims it to be? I think it is but I'm not a pro at eye balling antique weapons.

Streck-Fu · 12-21-2011, 07:07

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Originally Posted by 33army

I went into a local owned hunting shop yesterday to kill time with the wife. The shop sales consignment weapons so I like to browse. I ran across a Mauser rifle for $375 dated from 1910 with original bayonet, or at least that's what the owner says it is dated at. The price struck me as odd so I was wondering if anyone here might tell me if that is a reasonable price for the rifle if it is what the owner claims it to be? I think it is but I'm not a pro at eye balling antique weapons.

Sorry, I needed to finish my coffee before posting...

....I didn't realize I actually hit submit on that post....

I'm not too familiar with the Belgians. I have a Chilean modelo 1895 which more common in the US so may not be worth as much. I paid $300 without a bayonet a couple of years ago.

One thing to consider is that I think the Belgian was chambered for a unique cartridge larger than the 7x57 found in the model 93 and 95 Mausers of that time. 7.6mm or so comes to mind....

I really enjoy shooting the Chilean as it's pretty accurate. The sights suck like on all Mausers but I was hitting 12" steel at 250 yards.

33army · 12-21-2011, 07:23

If I recall correctly, the markings had Belgium on it. Can't recall exactly but according to the store owner, the owner of said weapon is a WW2 vet that has a massive collection of high end collectors pieces and is very credible. Again, hearsay, but it was a gorgeous functional piece. Currently trying to convince Household 6 to get me a long range Christmas present.

33army · 12-21-2011, 07:27

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Originally Posted by 33army

The shop sales consignment weapons .....

Just realized how horrible my grammar is.....the shop sales? Really?

Streck-Fu · 12-21-2011, 07:32

Edited above.....I posted before coffee which is something I try not to do....

33army · 12-21-2011, 07:38

Not a problem, I just finished mine. Causes problems when you work in a shop like mine.

MVP · 12-21-2011, 08:22

SSG C,

Don't buy it until you know exactly what it is! Easy to get stung on old military guns. Best reference is probably an older copy of "small arms of the world" by Ezell. I believe the later belgian guns were all 7mm Mauser but I cannot guarantee that. If it is not a 98 action I would avoid it. The M93 and M95 are ok but not worth the $$$ but absolutely avoid the M1889 or M1891, easily identifed by a magazine box that projets from the bottom of the receiver. You can find pictures of the M98s, M95s and M93's on the internet. Once you have looked at them you should be able to quickly idenitfy one form another.

MVP

33army · 12-21-2011, 08:27

MVP,

After looking at the photos of the three I can easily say it's an M93.

Streck-Fu · 12-21-2011, 09:20

Some information on the 93 Mauser. LINK

The 98s are much stronger benefiting from advances in metallurgy but I'm (mostly

) comfortable shooting the 95 but wouldn't venture into the 93 series.

33army · 12-21-2011, 09:31

I'm torn......get this now and wait longer for the Daniel Defense M4.......or just get the DD sooner........

mojaveman · 12-21-2011, 09:46

If you're looking specifically for a nice shootable Mauser take a look at the Yugoslavs either in M48 or M24/47. You can probably find a nice one for less than three bills.

Streck-Fu · 12-21-2011, 09:53

I really like the M48 and they are less expensive. They shoot the 8x57 and are lighter so the recoil is a little more bruising. It is a post war variant of the German K98 made with the German tooling. It does have a shorter action so the parts are not interchangeable. It is the last of the 98 style Mausers.

For disclosure, I own and shoot the following:
1895 Chilean Mauser
Swiss K31
Finnish M39 (Mosin variant)
Yugoslavian M48
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine

Streck-Fu · 12-21-2011, 11:41

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MVP,

After looking at the photos of the three I can easily say it's an M93.

Go by the markings on the receiver. Can you go back and get pictures?

Also, ask the people that post here: LINK

33army · 12-22-2011, 05:58

I'm gonna try to go back today if I can. Hopefully will get some pictures.

MVP · 12-22-2011, 08:09

IIRC the first Belgian produced version of the Mauser 98 was a 1935 model in 7mm Mauser aka 7x57. A friend of mine brought back an "FN" marked 98 from an MTT to Lebannon in the mid 80's. I got it from him as a curiousity because it was actually not an FN but rather one of the guns made in the Khyber Pass. Looked damn close to an FN gun but the markings were screwed up with misspellings. If the gun is marked 1910 and it has a straight grip I would bet on it being a 93 or 95. Chamber dates mean nothing, look at the left side of the receiver for either a "Mod ??" or a plain number by itself. Now I think about it I do not recall having ever seen a 93 or 95 marked with a model name.

MVP