Cain Says Communities Have Right to Ban Mosques

[Dusty]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...o-ban-mosques/


Presidential candidate Herman Cain on Sunday defended his opposition to a new mosque in Tennessee, expressing concern about Shariah law and declaring Americans "have the right" to ban mosques in their communities.

Cain, who stirred controversy this year by saying he would be uncomfortable appointing a Muslim to his Cabinet if elected, first expressed concern Thursday about the controversial mosque in Murfreesboro, Tenn. That mosque has been the subject of demonstrations and legal challenges in the wake of the controversy over the so-called "Ground Zero mosque" in New York City.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Cain said he came out against the Tennessee mosque after talking to members of that community. He said the site is "hallowed ground" to Murfreesboro residents and that they're concerned about "the intentions of trying to get Shariah law" -- the code governing conduct in Islamic societies.

"It's not just a mosque for religious purposes. This is what the people are objecting to," he said.

Asked whether any community should be able to prohibit a mosque, Cain said they should.

"They have the right to do that. That's not discriminating ... against that particular religion. That is an aspect of them building that mosque that doesn't get talked about," he said.

Cain again argued that residents were objecting to "the fact that Islam is both a religion and a set of laws, Shariah law. That's the difference between any one of our other traditional religions."

But while Cain said he expects the case to come before the Supreme Court, a local judge has allowed the project to go forward.

Cain is taking heat for his comments about Muslims. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, which accused him of using "bigoted" language with his Cabinet comments, said Sunday that he should "apologize" for his latest remarks.

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper, describing Cain's stance on the Tennessee mosque as a possible "sign of desperation," said other Republican candidates and leaders should also distance themselves from that kind of rhetoric.

"It's incumbent on reasonable people within the Republican Party to come out strongly and repudiate these kinds of un-American unconstitutional views," he said. "It's just so bizarre."

Cain, the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, is struggling to build on earlier momentum and break into the top tier of candidates in the 2012 Republican primary race. He expressed confidence Sunday that he could have a strong showing in an upcoming Iowa straw poll.

[Roguish Lawyer]

What a loon

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

What a loon

Maybe-but have you had the Pepperoni, Jalapeno and Anchovy? It's out of this world.

[Pete]

Communities ban stuff all the time - mostly through zoning or noise requirements.

Does a community have a right to ban stuff under the above mention things? Yes.

Does a community have a right to ban a Mosque while allowing the construction of a place of worship by a different religion in a similar area then I would say no.

I wonder how a new church would go over in some sections of Dearborn?

[bubba]

While I agree the "religious" aspect of it would allow anyone to build whatever building they would like to worship in, the law side would preclude it. What would you say if some one were to set up a police station to enforce National Socialist (NAZI) laws, or a Communist KGB type police station to enforce Communist laws? People need to wake up and realize that the word Islam means a set of laws, not a way to worship a deity, and that those laws are directly at odds with the laws of the western world. Islam, by LAW wants to enact sharia LAW on the WORLD, and if you don't subscribe, then you are to be killed. So let it be written, let it be done.

[Eagle5US]

Reading the article he RIGHTFULLY separates the "Religion" portion if Islam and worship, from the SHARIA LAW portion of the argument.
The title of the article itself is misleading. Though I am not the biggest fan of Cain, he is acting on what many States and communities are already having difficulty addressing - the indifference of some in the Islamic population to US Law, and the subsequent tolerance (i.e. SUBSTITUTION) of Sharia law in its place.

[kgoerz]

Ya, this guy is a real winner.

[PRB]

I'm not a fan of his either, but if we ran a poll and said you can choose Obama or Cain....I'd be a Cain man in a NY minute.

[Ambush Master]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

What a loon

So you are prepared to start defending in a SHARIA LAW Society?!?!?!

I'd be willing to bet that you yourself would be drug into the court as an Infidel, before you could even begin to defend your Client!!!

[PRB]

Just watched an informed talk about Mr.Cains comments, he was talking about Murfreesboro Tn specifically.
The issue here is there is huge outside money (Saudi) building a huge Muslim complex in a community that doesn't have a large Muslim community compared to complex size. The locals don't want to limit religious expression but are afraid of Sharia (Islam being much more than next worldly)and believe those directing this are building it as an attraction to 'come on down' and that this might change the balance of their community.
There are valid laws (zoning) that prohibit building that may impact the community negatively.
Cain basically said it should be handled by the folks there, they should have a 'say'.
It's been spun.
If you think the influx of huge Saudi dollars to build (and man with their wahabi Imams as part of the deal)mosques and complex's is benign then you are foolish.
Kind of like Kruschev talking about us hanging ourselves with a rope we purchesed ourselves.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Ambush Master

So you are prepared to start defending in a SHARIA LAW Society?!?!?!

I'd be willing to bet that you yourself would be drug into the court as an Infidel, before you could even begin to defend your Client!!!

Big difference between having a Sharia law society and allowing a community to discriminate against one religion. The First Amendment ain't Sharia. We're not talking about a law that limits where you can build a place of worship regardless of religion, but rather one that says you can't build a Muslim place of worship. That is downright unAmerican.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by PRB

Just watched an informed talk about Mr.Cains comments, he was talking about Murfreesboro Tn specifically.
The issue here is there is huge outside money (Saudi) building a huge Muslim complex in a community that doesn't have a large Muslim community compared to complex size. The locals don't want to limit religious expression but are afraid of Sharia (Islam being much more than next worldly)and believe those directing this are building it as an attraction to 'come on down' and that this might change the balance of their community.
There are valid laws (zoning) that prohibit building that may impact the community negatively.
Cain basically said it should be handled by the folks there, they should have a 'say'.
It's been spun.
If you think the influx of huge Saudi dollars to build (and man with their wahabi Imams as part of the deal)mosques and complex's is benign then you are foolish.
Kind of like Kruschev talking about us hanging ourselves with a rope we purchesed ourselves.

If you want to enforce laws like that for this purpose, you ought to be smart enough not to say expressly what your unconstitutional motivation is. These people need to get themselves some lawyers!

[Roguish Lawyer]

Americans "have the right" to ban mosques in their communities.

Here's the problem -- this is just absolutely wrong. There is no such right, period. Very basic First Amendment stuff.

[Roguish Lawyer]

I'll add that it pisses me off that someone prominent would say such stupid things and give CAIR an opportunity to respond and appear legitimate to a lot of Americans. That organization was being totally discredited in the press, and they look good in this story because they're right.

[head]

Some days, I want to become a Muslim just to piss everybody else off and confront those who demonstrate such blissful ignorance. And then I'd also condemn those that pervert my faith, naturally, though the fact that I've killed enough of those guys (the extremists) should support my case.