Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal Beginning July 15

[Paslode]

Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal Beginning July 15
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/18/2011 13:23 -0400

One small step toward Executive Order 6102 part 2, and one giant leap for corruptcongressmankind.

From: FOREX.com <info@forex.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:11 PM
Subject: Important Account Notice Re: Metals Trading
To: xxx

Important Account Notice Re: Metals Trading


We wanted to make you aware of some upcoming changes to FOREX.com’s product offering. As a result of the Dodd-Frank Act enacted by US Congress, a new regulation prohibiting US residents from trading over the counter precious metals, including gold and silver, will go into effect on Friday, July 15, 2011.

In conjunction with this new regulation, FOREX.com must discontinue metals trading for US residents on Friday, July 15, 2011 at the close of trading at 5pm ET. As a result, all open metals positions must be closed by July 15, 2011 at 5pm ET.

We encourage you to wind down your trading activity in these products over the next month in anticipation of the new rule, as any open XAU or XAG positions that remain open prior to July 15, 2011 at approximately 5:00 pm ET will be automatically liquidated.

We sincerely regret any inconvenience complying with the new U.S. regulation may cause you. Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact our customer service team.

Sincerely,
The Team at FOREX.com

So far we have only received this warning from Forex.com. We are waiting to see which other dealers inform their customers that trading gold and silver over the counter will soon be illegal.

It appears that Forex.com's interpretation of the law stems primarily from Section 742(a) of the Dodd-Frank act which "prohibits any person [which again includes companies]from entering into, or offering to enter into, a transaction in any commodity with a person that is not an eligible contract participant or an eligible commercial entity, on a leveraged or margined basis."

Some prehistory from Hedge Fund Law Blog:

The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (“Act”) has changed a number of laws in all of the securities acts including the Commodity Exchange Act. Two specific changes deal with certain transactions in commodities on the spot market. Specifically, Section 742 of the Act deals with retail commodity transactions. In this section, the text of the Commodity Exchange Act is amended to include new Section 2(c)(2)(D) (dealing with retail commodity transactions) and new Section 2(c)(2)(E) (prohibiting trading in spot forex with retail investors unless the trader is subject to regulations by a Federal regulatory agency, i.e. CFTC, SEC, etc.). According to a congressional rulemaking spreadsheet, these are effective 180 days from the date of enactment.

We provide an overview of the new sections and have reprinted them in full below.

New CEA Section 2(c)(2)(D) – Concerning Spot Commodities (Metals)

The central import of new CEA Section 2(c)(2)(D) is to broaden the CFTC’s power with respect to retail commodity transactions. Essentially any spot commodities transaction (i.e. spot metals) will be subject to CFTC jurisdiction and rulemaking authority. There is an exemption for commodities which are actually delivered within 28 days. While the CFTC wanted an exemption in which commodities would need to be delivered within 2 days, various coin collectors were able to lobby congress for a longer delivery period (see here).

It is likely we will see the CFTC propose regulations under this new section and we will keep you updated on any regulatory pronouncements with respect to this new section.

New CEA Section 2(c)(2)(E) – Concerning Spot Forex

The central import of new CEA Section 2(c)(2)(E) is to regulate the spot forex markets. While the section requires the CFTC to finalize regulations with respect to spot forex (which were proposed earlier in January), it also, interestingly, provides oversight of the markets to other federal regulatory agencies such as the CFTC. This means that in the future, different market participants may be subject to different regulatory regimes with respect to trading in same underlying instruments. A Wall Street Journal article discusses the impact of this with respect to firms which engage in other activities in addition to retail forex transactions. The CFTC’s proposed rules establish certain compliance parameters for retail forex transactions, requires registration of retail forex managers and requires such managers to pass a new regulatory exam called the Series 34 exam. We do not yet know whether the other regulatory agencies will adopt rules similar to the CFTC or if they will write rules from scratch.

Next, from Henderson & Lyman:

The prohibition of Section 742(a) does not apply, however, if such a transaction results in actual delivery within 28 days, or creates an enforceable obligation to deliver between a seller and a buyer that have the ability to deliver, and accept delivery of, the commodity in connection with their lines of business. This may be problematic as in most spot metals trading virtually all contracts fail to meet these requirements. As a result, although the courts’ interpretation of Section 742(a) is unknown, Section 742(a) is likely to have a significantly negative impact on the OTC cash precious metals industry. Here too, it is essential that those who offer to be a counterparty to OTC metals transactions seek professional help to discuss possible operational and regulatory contingency plans.

The actual rule language exempts a transaction if it "results in actual delivery within 28 days or such other longer period as the Commission may determine by rule or regulation based upon the typical commercial practice in cash or spot markets for the commodity involved;" Alas, the commission has decided not to intervene and keep the exemption status window so small as to affect virtually all exchanges which transact in the gold and silver spot market.

More here:

Elimination of OTC Forex

Effective 90 days from its inception, the Dodd-Frank Act bans most retail OTC forex transactions. Section 742(c) of the Act states as follows:

…A person [which includes companies] shall not offer to, or enter into with, a person that is not an eligible contract participant, any agreement, contract, or transaction in foreign currency except pursuant to a rule or regulation of a Federal regulatory agency allowing the agreement, contract, or transaction under such terms and conditions as the Federal regulatory agency shall prescribe…

This provision will not come into effect, however, if the CFTC or another eligible federal body issues guidelines relating to the regulation of foreign currency within 90 days of its enactment. Registrants and the public are currently being encouraged by the CFTC to provide insight into how the Act should be enforced. See CFTC Rulemakings regarding OTC Derivatives located at the following website address, under Section XX – Foreign Currency (Retail Off Exchange). It is essential that OTC forex participants seek professional help to discuss possible operational and regulatory contingency plans.

Elimination of OTC Metals

As for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the Act prohibits any person [which again includes companies]from entering into, or offering to enter into, a transaction in any commodity with a person that is not an eligible contract participant or an eligible commercial entity, on a leveraged or margined basis. This provision intends to expand the narrow so called “Zelener fix” in the Farm Bill previously ratified by congress in 2008. The Farm Bill empowered the CFTC to pursue anti-fraud actions involving rolling spot transactions and/or other leveraged forex transactions without the need to prove that they are futures contracts. The Dodd-Frank Act now expands this authority to include virtually all retail cash commodity market products that involve leverage or margin – in other words OTC precious metals.

The prohibition of Section 742(a) does not apply, however, if such a transaction results in actual delivery within 28 days, or creates an enforceable obligation to deliver between a seller and a buyer that have the ability to deliver, and accept delivery of, the commodity in connection with their lines of business. This may be problematic as in most spot metals trading virtually all contracts fail to meet these requirements. As a result, although the courts’ interpretation of Section 742(a) is unknown, Section 742(a) is likely to have a significantly negative impact on the OTC cash precious metals industry. Here too, it is essential that those who offer to be a counterparty to OTC metals transactions seek professional help to discuss possible operational and regulatory contingency plans.

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[Paslode]

Small Pool Exemption Eliminated

Pursuant to Section 403 of Act, the “privateadviser” exemption, namelySection 203(b)(3) of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 (“Advisers Act”), will be eliminated within one year of the Act’s effective date (July 21, 2011). Historically, many unregistered U.S. fund managers had relied on this exemption to avoid registration where they:

(1) had fewer than 15 clients in the past 12 months;

(2) do not hold themselves out generally to the public as investment advisers; and

(3) do not act as investment advisers to a registered investment company or business development company.

At present, advisers can treat the unregistered funds that they advise, rather than the investors in those funds, as their clients for purposes of this exemption. A common practice has thus evolved whereby certain advisers manage up to 14 unregistered funds without having to register under the Advisers Act. Accordingly, the removal of this exemption represents a significant shift in the regulatory landscape, as this practice will no longer be allowable in approximately one year.

Also an important consideration, the Dodd-Frank Act mandates new federal registration and regulation thresholds based on the amount of assets a manager has under management ("AUM"). Although not yet underway, it is possible that various states may enact legislation designed to create a similar registration framework for managers whose AUM fall beneath the new federal levels.

Accredited Investor Qualifications

Section 413(a) of the Act alters the financial qualifications of who can be considered an accredited investor, and thus a qualified as eligible participant (“QEP”). Specifically, the revised accredited investor standard includes only the following types of individuals:

1) A natural person whose individual net worth, or joint net worth with spouse, is at least $1,000,000, excluding the value of such investor's primary residence;

2) A natural person who had individual income in excess of $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with spouse in excess of $300,000 in each of those years and a reasonable expectation of reaching the same income level in the current year; or

3) A director, executive officer, or general partner of the issuer of the securities being offered or sold, or a director, executive officer, or general partner of a general partner of that issuer.

Based on this language, it is important to note that the revised accredited investor standard only applies to new investors and does not cover existing investors. However, additional subscriptions from existing investors are generally treated as requiring confirmation of continuing investor eligibility.

On July 27th, 2010, the SEC provided additional clarity regarding the valuation of an individual’s primary residence when calculating net worth. In particular, the SEC has interpreted this provision as follows:

Section 413(a) of the Dodd-Frank Act does not define the term “value,” nor does it address the treatment of mortgage and other indebtedness secured by the residence for purposes of the net worth calculation…Pending implementation of the changes to the Commission’s rules required by the Act, the related amount of indebtedness secured by the primary residence up to its fair market value may also be excluded. Indebtedness secured by the residence in excess of the value of the home should be considered a liability and deducted from the investor’s net worth.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tra...inning-july-15

[Penn]

WHY was this bill passed?

Originally Posted by Penn

WHY was this bill passed?

Because people are easily coerced.

This is not new, FDR did this as well, making owning gold illegal in the US. One could own govt., minter gold coin, bars, etc., just not gold in raw form, be it, nugget, dust, etc. When Gold was selling at $100 an oz., FDR offered to minors to purchase their Gold at $35 per oz. The difference assisted in the US to pull out of the depression, if you believe that.

Gold today represents independance, a hedge against inflation, and a comodity that is tradable in a barter system. That is something big brother does not want.

This is not entirely the same though. Trading on the open market, fund managers are now limiting their exposure. The private citizen can and will obtain gold by any means to their disposal.

Good luck, the screws are being tighten just a little bit more.

I advise all those reading to buy also as much ammo as your budget will allow. I'll be trading gold for bullets in the coming months, or until the 2012 election is complete, whichever comes first.

I do like how the article was submitted by: Tyler Durden on 06/18/2011 13:23 -0400 of "Fight Club".

Maybe its just talk? I'm going to go find my Tinfoil hat.

[scooter]

This link explains it better. Trading Gold/Silver won't be illegal, just imposing regs on futures trading in smaller markets.

Or is it?? (scary music)

http://www.wikinvest.com/wikinvest/a...tml&comments=0

[TOMAHAWK9521]

Originally Posted by wet dog

Good luck, the screws are being tighten just a little bit more.

I advise all those reading to buy also as much ammo as your budget will allow. I'll be trading gold for bullets in the coming months, or until the 2012 election is complete, whichever comes first.

That's why I invested in the essential reloading components.

[Paslode]

This appears to about trading electronic paper i.e. Uncle Joe calls Sam Gold and says he wants to buy 100 shares or ounces and no tangible exchange took place. And neither Sam Gold or Uncle Joe knows if the other party has the goods to sell or the funds to make the purchase.

I believe this type of trading assisted in the financial crisis....so it might be a good thing. But then again, it is another regulation, and with Franke & Dodd (conspirators in the Housing Crisis) involved who knows were it will end up.

[Rschoeneck]

I have just begun investing in silver and when I read this, I also interpreted it to have an impact on "paper" trades. I know the dealer I use here in Raleigh has not given any heads up to me about this.

Pretty sure that this only applies to licensed "floor" traders.

It better...or I am gonna have to go and "liberate" that rather large bar I just paid for. :: shakesfist ::

[Box]

Invest in bullets.... they can be used to secure more gold.

Originally Posted by Rschoeneck

I have just begun investing in silver and when I read this, I also interpreted it to have an impact on "paper" trades. I know the dealer I use here in Raleigh has not given any heads up to me about this.

Pretty sure that this only applies to licensed "floor" traders.

It better...or I am gonna have to go and "liberate" that rather large bar I just paid for. :: shakesfist ::

When you buy Silver from your contact, does he maintain control of the bar in his office safe, or do you take possession of it then.

[Rschoeneck]

Originally Posted by wet dog

When you buy Silver from your contact, does he maintain control of the bar in his office safe, or do you take possession of it then.

No, I keep all of the bars in my safe at home. Sorry for the confusion when I amde the comment about liberating my bar. I had ordered a rather substantial size bar and had put down half on it.

It is my humble opinion that silver in hand is the ONLY way to go. Now, speculation says that we are going to see a rather substantial price drop in silver before the end of the year.....course...tis all speculatin..

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by Rschoeneck

Now, speculation says that we are going to see a rather substantial price drop in silver before the end of the year.....course...tis all speculatin..

I work for a rather large electronics/electrocomponent distributor and one of our vendors actually lowered their prices on some of their products today due to a drop in silver prices. Just FWIW...

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Rschoeneck

No, I keep all of the bars in my safe at home. Sorry for the confusion when I amde the comment about liberating my bar. I had ordered a rather substantial size bar and had put down half on it.

It is my humble opinion that silver in hand is the ONLY way to go. Now, speculation says that we are going to see a rather substantial price drop in silver before the end of the year.....course...tis all speculatin..

Eric Janszen over at iTulip.com just sold his silver.

He has had a bloody good track record(unmatched from what I have found) and is still long gold.

His point about silver that struck home to me is that he calls silver, unlike gold or oil, politically irrelevant.

But I would be a buyer again under $20.

[Rschoeneck]

Flagg....

I agree that EJ made a good call to sell in April and made good coin off of it. Having said that...I believe that silver WILL suffer a collapse soon....hopefully not to below $20 but somewhere slightly above that. Then we will see a record increase near the high $40's or $50.

After that....I say expect a collpase and a LONG stagnation period. Also, the collapse in silver when EJ sold was/is not as bad as he predicted IMO.

Personally, I stand to lose some money when it goes down in the fall and will sell when it peaks. After that......I will be buying only rounds as a barter item.

Bullets, beans, and band-aids are better......but human beings ALWAYS like shiny things!

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Invest in bullets.... they can be used to secure more gold.

Nominating this as a, "Quote of the Year!!!"

Awesome idea!

Holly