06-12-2011, 09:59
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This is all fine and good, except that the last line of the article pretty much says all that the rank and file need to know:
"Implementation dates for the announced changes have not yet been decided. Soldiers should wait for direction from their commands before implementing any uniform changes."
Good times,
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06-12-2011, 11:49
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When are they going to change over to the new camo?
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I believe their still "studying" their options. I'd say perhaps another few years... 
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06-14-2011, 10:01
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Army Directive 2011-11 (Changes to Wear of the Army Combat Uniform
(ACU) Items) 13-Jun-2011
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06-14-2011, 13:18
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parody memo circulating today in the office:
2. Effective 1 APR 2012, the bow is the primary sign of respect to higher-ranking officers. Commanders retain the authority to prescribe the salute for special events such as parades or changes of command or responsibility.
3. Effective the day prior to 1 APR 2012, all soldiers will wear tanker boots with their ACUs. Moleskin may be added to the boots in order to camouflage them in the desert.
4. Effective the day after 1 APR 2012, all leg soldiers will blouse their blues trousers into tanker boots. Airborne personnel will continue to blouse their trousers into jump boots.
5. Effective a year after 1 APR 2012, all non-Ranger-tabbed soldiers (except for those described in #6, below), when bowing, will say "Rangers lead the way". Ranger-tabbed soldiers will not bow, but take a knee and face out, staying silent until acknowledged by the officer. If the officer does not notice the Ranger, the Ranger may, at his discretion, leap on the officer and simulate a knife slash to the throat.
6. Effective a year prior to 1 APR 2012, all non-SF-tabbed soldiers (except for those described in #5 above) will bow to superior officers, but when bowing will face towards Fort Bragg when doing so and utter underneath their breath: "De Oppresso Liber". All SF-tabbed soldiers will give the same greeting, but instead of bowing will give the motorcycle sign when passing other motorcyclists. All officers responding with, "what?" will be leapt on by the nearest Ranger-tabbed soldier with a simulated knife slash to the throat.
7. Effective a year prior to 1 APR 2013, all soldiers overseas will get a bonus every time they are fired on. Every soldier who is in theater who has not been fired on in 7 days will redeploy. Every soldier who fires back at those who fire upon them will receive a triple bonus. Every soldier who hits someone while firing back will receive a quadruple bonus. Every soldier who actually hits what they were aiming at will receive the pay of the highest-ranking officer in theater.
8. Effective yesterday, all general officers have to eat, fly, wait, sleep and travel using the same resources as soldiers do.
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06-14-2011, 14:07
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06-14-2011, 14:24
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New ACU policy to allow sew-ons and patrol cap..........."Sew-ons" they were the only kind I knew,I thought the velcro was kinda cool myself..........  When did they introduce the velcro?............ 
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06-14-2011, 14:28
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lol Wonder how long it'll be 'til the Rangers get the black one back?
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06-14-2011, 14:33
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New ACU policy to allow sew-ons and patrol cap..........."Sew-ons" they were the only kind I knew,I thought the velcro was kinda cool myself.......... When did they introduce the velcro?............
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Yep no velcro patches while I was in either.
We had a guy back in basic training that had a sleeping bag that had Velcro instead of a zipper. Every damn time he got up to take a leak he woke EVERYONE up and during the night tactical exercises it was the worst. Not sure who's bright idea that one was but it wasn't very smart.
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06-14-2011, 18:35
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Common sense? We'll see. It's only a matter of time until we're spit shining and pressing our clothes and boots again. People that should know better are already making noises about a return to the "old ways" IOT install discipline in a force that is lacking it. They should start where it matters instead.
I don't think the Rangers are going back to the Black Beret... The Army isn't shitcanning it entirely, it will still be used for the ASU, CoC's, ect.
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06-14-2011, 19:24
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Fox News article on the dumping of the black beret
Here is a Fox News article on the topic:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/14...or-patrol-cap/
Here is a quote from said article:
"The decision does not affect units that have long worn berets as a mark of distinction, including the Rangers' black beret, Army special forces' green beret and Airborne's maroon version."
Why is "Special Forces" not capitalized in that sentence when "Ranger" and "Airborne" are? Goes along with the same lack of understanding news outlets show when referring to all Special Operations Forces as the "Special Forces."
Stuff like that just bothers me for some reason.
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06-15-2011, 04:56
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"The decision does not affect units that have long worn berets as a mark of distinction, including the Rangers' black beret, Army special forces' green beret and Airborne's maroon version."
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I thought the Rangers beret was tan??
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Why is "Special Forces" not capitalized in that sentence when "Ranger" and "Airborne" are? Goes along with the same lack of understanding news outlets show when referring to all Special Operations Forces as the "Special Forces."
Stuff like that just bothers me for some reason.
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Because the guy/gal that wrote the article is an A$$-HO..
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06-15-2011, 07:02
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It's tan NOW... it was Black before Shinseki's good idea.
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06-15-2011, 17:32
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lol Wonder how long it'll be 'til the Rangers get the black one back? |
Quit stirring the pot Dusty!!!!!
As stated before...........Black Berets have been touched by the unclean and shall forever carry that mark. Tan will remain.
I earned mine!!!!!
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06-15-2011, 19:12
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I earned mine!!!!!
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The black beret of yesteryear was stolen, the Tab they earned, the tan beret is issued.
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