04-22-2011, 09:12
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My Best Friend is a Muslim
Wkhalid writes a blog on the Houston Chronicle website titled "A Young American Muslim, A Fresh Perspective on Islam Today." Her blogs are mostly vacuous puff pieces on Islam, expressing her opinion of Islam. The comments section can be interesting. I particularly liked the last exchange between wkhalid and ec342.
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ec342 wrote:
wkhalid: What happens to a Muslim who does not hold on to their faith? Mohammed proscribed death to those who abandon their faith in Islam. Today, under Sharia law, it still does.
I want you to understand that I fully recognize your taqiyya. You are shielding and obfuscating the words and meanings of the Qur'an to paint islam as peaceful. NotoriousRex00 mentions a Muslim on Christian hate crime in Nigeria. There are dozens of reports coming from Pakistan, Indonesia, and elsewhere of Muslim hoards attacking and killing Christians, burning their churches and taking their land. The Egyptian Copts are under siege, and are fleeing the coutry by the thousands, fleeing persecution at the hands of Muslims.
Is this Muslim friendship with non-believers? Or is this true to surah 5:15, and equally to surah 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” These are actual Muslims, committing hate crimes, and according to the Koran, they are correct in doing so. This is not an "historical situation".
- I love how you grasp at straws to say that the word friend doesn't actually mean friend, but instead patron or guardian. Really? I have studied at least 6 different translations of of the Koran and they all say 'friend'. Funny thing, huh?
You'd think someone, somewhere, at sometime would have corrected 'friend' to 'patron'. Your argument fails. Finally, you say out of context. This is a common tactic used by Muslims when confromted with 'uncomfortable' verses in the Koran. Go back and read the 20 verses before and the 20 verses after surah 5:15, and explain to me again how this is somehow 'out of context'. Please do! I've tried it many times.
Although most Muslims are peaceful and tolerant, Islam, the ideology, is not.
You explanations regarding surah 5:15 are hollow.
4/20/2011 12:52 PM CDT
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wkhalid wrote:
ec342: Why did you ask me for my thoughts on the verses if you did not want to hear them? Sorry if my answer did not satisfy you, but it is what I believe based on what I've read. You are free to think as you like, of course.
4/20/2011 9:52 PM CDT
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ec342 wrote:
The Qur'an contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history. This is not 'opinion'. This is verifiable fact. Do you see the AlJazeera photos showing masked Islamic militants holding an AK47 in one hand and the Koran in the other? Where do you think Islamic Jihadists and Muslim terrorists get their guidance? It is their holy book of course. That and Mohammed's 'perfect' example, as outlined in the ahadith. Why do you adhere to an ideology based on war, hatred, and intolerance? You are better than Islam.
4/21/2011 8:25 AM CDT
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I hold it as a principle that the duration of peace is in direct proportion to the slaughter you inflict on the enemy. –Gen. Mikhail Skobelev
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04-22-2011, 10:55
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Wow, I think wkhalid needs to go find some REALLY good tap dance shoes
I think he/she will go down in flames...
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