Off duty LEO shoots dog in MD

lindy · 08-04-2010, 16:40

Let me start off saying that I'm not anti-LEO at all but rather I'm anti-Maryland concealed carry "law" which says in part I cannot have a CCW permit but all LEOs (active or retired) are eligible.

Even this guy. BTW, my dog played with this same husky in this very dog run earlier on Monday. I wasn't there but I'm leaning towards the idea that the cop was pissed his German Shepard was being attacked and he fired.

At least it wasn't a snowball or motorcyclist driving like an idiot.

I gotta move.

PSM · 08-04-2010, 17:07

We don't do dog parks: "It's Your Job to Protect Your Dog"

Pat

lindy · 08-04-2010, 17:34

More of the story.

I was doing sprints around the 'hood today and noticed a news truck at the dog park. I told my fam to watch the news because they were at the dog park. Apparently this story is all over the internets.

Buffalobob · 08-05-2010, 10:53

Turn around on the issue.

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=715&sid=2020133

I assume you are aware of Md's position on citizens and CCA. They are being sued on the issue at the moment.

**Peregrino** · 08-05-2010, 13:35

Another reason not to frequent dog parks. Around here (FBNC) "federal officer" usually means some form of rent-a-cop guarding the gate or equivalent LEO doing traffic enforcement. In either event - not the brightest bulbs in the box.

lindy · 08-06-2010, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalobob

I assume you are aware of Md's position on citizens and CCA. They are being sued on the issue at the moment.

Negative, BB, wasn't aware. I'm definitely going to check that out.

Buffalobob · 08-06-2010, 12:40

If you live in Maryland and have a dog, you definitely need to be armed at all times to prevent the police from killing it.

There is a thread here concerning the CCA lawsuit

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=40649

Don't waste your time reading all of the ranting and frothing at the mouth. Just get what you need to know and move on.

jw74 · 08-06-2010, 12:59

Dogs fight. If you can't/won't step in to the fracas to save your dog and/or the other dog, then you are an A-hole with no business at an off leash dog park IMO

Utah Bob · 08-06-2010, 15:11

I'd comment but I have no dog in this fight.

Buffalobob · 08-07-2010, 05:54

Well, the Prince Georges police were bored and did 't have any college kids to beat up so they decided to go back to their old standby.

Quote:

By Ruben Castaneda
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, August 7, 2010

A Prince George's County sheriff's deputy serving an eviction notice at a Forest Heights house Friday fatally shot a Rottweiler that charged at him, officials said.

The sister of the dog's owner said the deputy should have waited for animal-control officers to arrive. The shooting comes two years after the sheriff's department came under criticism when members of a sheriff's SWAT unit stormed the home of the Berwyn Heights mayor and fatally shot two chocolate Labradors.

The sheriff's department said in a statement that the deputies called county animal-control officials to restrain the dog. The deputies had been told by the landlord that the dog was in a crate in the basement. Before entering the home, deputies knocked on the front and back doors and made a commotion, as they are trained to do before entering a home with animals, the statement said

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080606146.html

Richard · 08-07-2010, 06:14

On-Duty SF Trainee Shoots Dogs At Fort Bragg

An SF doggy tale.

SFTG and weekend guard duty circa 1971. One of the guard post's was the vet clinic next to the Drop Zone Airborne Club Annex - a rousing place with lots of opportunities to practice your MMA skills on Friday and Saturday nights. The vet clinic was a post with a single guard armed with an M-16A1 and 5 rounds of ammo.

A call came into the guard house down next to the old Book Store across from the JFK Center that there were shots fired at the vet clinic. MPs were notified and the Officer (CPT) and Sergeant of the Guard (MSG) headed for the vet clinic in separate M151s - about a 2 minute drive.

It turns out the trainee on guard duty claimed he was being attacked by three dogs in their cyclone fenced pens and so had fired all 5 of his 5.56mm rounds into the pen - killing them all.

The guy was relieved and the investigation began. The dogs belonged to a COL with 18ABC, and the trainee was found mentally unstable and separated under a Chap 8 from the service.

We used to talk about it all the time and always wondered whether the guy was really mentally imbalanced or just found a clever way to void his contract.

And so it goes...

Richard

ZonieDiver · 08-07-2010, 11:14

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armed with an M-16A1 and 5 rounds of ammo

I might add - 5 rounds in a magazine hermetically sealed in the thickest plastic I have ever seen in my life! We always figured it would take 5 minutes to get the rounds out of that bag.

About the time the Jane Fonda-Donald Sutherland "FTA" show came to Fayette-Nam, there were several trainees on guard duty who claimed they were fired upon. It became unofficial "SOP" that if you had a friend on guard duty at the SF Weapons "depot" that you would drop off an unsealed, full magazine to him, just in case.

lindy · 08-07-2010, 11:55

Police report from the husky shooting.

According to press, the shooter was actually a Federal Protective Officer vice police.

Why would this guy fire only ONE round and hit the dog in the hindquarters/abdomen? Oh yeah, because he wasn't trying to stop the threat but rather get the husky off his dog (my opinion).

On a different topic, a guy was shot and killed a mile from my house last night. He was stopped at a stoplight.

Anyone wanna rent a townhouse?

Buffalobob · 08-07-2010, 17:35

At Ft Devens the OG kept all of the ammo himself and the guards just had empty weapons. In the OG house was two safes and one of them had the combination dial removed but the other one seemed fine. The DO handbook said to put the ammo in the safe and below that instruction was the combination to the safe.

So being a good and conscientious 2 Lt I put the ammo in the functioning safe and locked it. Of course the handbook said absolutely nothing about locking the safe. Around about midnight or so I got bored and decided to unlock the safe. Of course the combination did not work on the functioning safe. So I called the DO who was a major and not much smarter than me but he knew better than to call anyone. So when daylight came and my tour was over I called the major again and he said the S4 would send a locksmith sometime later.

A few days later one of my friends was OG and he said that the handbook still said to put the ammo in the safe and that now there were two safes with the combination dial removed.

rdret1 · 08-07-2010, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Another reason not to frequent dog parks. Around here (FBNC) "federal officer" usually means some form of rent-a-cop guarding the gate or equivalent LEO doing traffic enforcement. In either event - not the brightest bulbs in the box.

How many of those "rent-a-cops" are veterans? How many of them are retired military and just wanted something to do other than push pencils somewhere to supplement their retirement income? What would be an "equivalent LEO" doing traffic enforcement to a "rent-a-cop gate guard"? And what does either have to do with ones level of intelligence? I am sure we have all met some "dim bulbs" in any occupation.

As for this young officer, from reading the available information, it would appear he made a flawed judgement call. He may not be charged criminally, but I would bet he could be found liable in Civil Court.